June 28th, clipping her wings

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by Respenus

I don't know if we have any Croatian members here. I'm certain they could tell an even more interesting story, and an even more horrible one.

I am no Croatian, but I can confirm this. I don't know if the stories are more interesting, but I definitely heard many horrible stories. This doesn't mean that the Slovenians didn't see horrors, too. But the fighting in Croatia was much longer, the crazy **** going on much more confusing and the hatred on all sides much more intense.

Originally Posted by Respenus

We were the lucky ones, with Germany and the Vatican on our side, there was little the EEC could had done outside accepting our declaration.

Remember that Germany also accepted Croatia's independence quite fast, but this didn't do much to stop the war there from happening.
But definitely the whole EU has failed to handle the breakup of Yugoslavia - military and political. If the JNA would have gone berserk in your country the Eu would have done ****.

Originally Posted by Respenus

It should be mentioned however that the Austrians had already positioned troops on their border, expecting a massive influx of refugees

Can't say much about the refugee topic, but I remember that Austria was also quite alarmed when JNA fighter planes violated it's airspace when attacking Slovenia.

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Penguin

Can't say much about the refugee topic, but I remember that Austria was also quite alarmed when JNA fighter planes violated it's airspace when attacking Slovenia.

Plus artilery shells were over-shooting their targets and hitting Austrian soil. I'm surprised Austria didn't mobilised

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by Betonov

Plus artilery shells were over-shooting their targets and hitting Austrian soil. I'm surprised Austria didn't mobilised

I think that much of Austria's behaviour in this conflict is owned to the historic component, the Austro-Hungarian empire. I think they feared the reaction of the Yugoslavian public if they would have fired in this conflict. That it would look like "Oh, the austrian imperialists want to dictate the fate of this region again"
-btw when did they recognize Slovenia as an independent country?

[Respenus]

Originally Posted by Penguin

I think that much of Austria's behaviour in this conflict is owned to the historic component, the Austro-Hungarian empire. I think they feared the reaction of the Yugoslavian public if they would have fired in this conflict. That it would look like "Oh, the austrian imperialists want to dictate the fate of this region again"

It should be noted however that Otto von Habsburg was highly supportive of our cause. Of course, he was the president of the Paneuropean Union, but still, the AH Empire was there to support us

As for the official dates, I don't know and they aren't generally known. It took some time for the rest of the EEC members to accept us. If not sooner, then during our ascension to a member of the UN.

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Penguin

-btw when did they recognize Slovenia as an independent country?

Austria, january 15th, 1992

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by Respenus

It should be noted however that Otto von Habsburg was highly supportive of our cause. Of course, he was the president of the Paneuropean Union, but still, the AH Empire was there to support us

thanks, I'll go more educated to bed tonight than I woke up
never heard of the Pan-European Union before, but wait...
wikipedia: "unity of a Christian Europe, free of "nihilism, atheism and immoral consumerism" sorry, can only agree with the last point
but as you know the Austrians had some bad experiences in engaging in a conflict in the balkans, Franz-Ferdinand ans this...

Regarding old Otto: I am glad however that you folks did chose to govern yourselves and didn't make a decision for a Kaiser who got his legitimation from strange women lying in ponds distributing swords

Originally Posted by Betonov

Austria, january 15th, 1992

they took some time till the war in Slovenia was decided, this fits to my assumption

[TLAM Strike]

This started a series of wars that would eventually draw in my country and the rest of NATO plus the Soviets/Russians.

Today I doubt anyone on the street of my city could locate Slovenia, Bosnia, Croatia, Serbia or Kosovo on a map.