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Old 06-20-11, 06:13 PM   #1
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I used to hate the way the AF rolled up their sleeves. It looked stupid to have your cuffs at you elbows.

The way the Marines do it is much easier and, in my opinion, looks better.
I never had cuffs at my elbow. The trick was how how many rolls you made and how wide you made them before folding down that outer fold. It had to be juuuuussst right. As a SrA, i rolled up my sleeves to where i looked like a SSgt. You could barely see the 3rd stripe, and couldn't see the bottom of the chevrons at all, so it looked like i had a 4th covered by the roll.

The only problem was, getting your blouse on or off was a tight fight on the bisceps - but hey, you looked hard charging.

I also boxed my covers, and wore them NOT tipped back on my head, but low over the eyes.

I was hard core, but then, i was a Horseman.
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Old 06-21-11, 07:31 AM   #2
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And now it's the Camo Uniform's turn.
For a review anyways:

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Soldiers wanted to do away with their current camo uniforms and adopt the pattern now being worn by their counterparts in Afghanistan."A lot of the Soldiers brought up that they just want to have the MultiCam, or Operation Enduring Freedom Camouflage pattern, as the standard design for all uniforms," Chandler said.

The Army did a radical about-face in 2009, adopting the MultiCam pattern developed by New York-based design firm Crye Precision to replace its so-called Universal Camo Pattern for Soldiers deployed to Afghanistan. The Operation Enduring Freedom Camo Pattern, or OCP, is popular due to how it blends into the varied backgrounds across the combat zone.
Chandler's predecessor, Sgt. Maj. Kenneth Preston, told Military.com last summer he believed the service was right to shift away from the universal camouflage pattern adopted in 2005 to the MultiCam scheme.
"The OCP allows the Soldiers to get far closer to potential enemies before being observed," Preston said. "I believe [Soldiers] are safer" wearing the OCP.
The Army launched a follow-up program late last year to see whether MultiCam or a family of patterns designed for different climates would be a better fit Army-wide than the UCP.
The $10 million effort led by Program Executive Office Soldier will lead to a pattern for desert and arid climates, one for jungle and woodland zones and another so-called "transitional" pattern that will work in a wide range of potential combat zones. The Army will also select a fourth pattern to camouflage its tactical gear -- such as body armor covers and magazine pouches -- that can blend with all three.
Though Chandler emphasized cost savings as a factor in several uniform modification ideas, he dodged questions about the cost of fielding a family of camo patterns while the service is already buying OCP uniforms and gear for Afghanistan-bound troops and Soldiers seem to want the pattern for universal use.
"We're not going to do that," Chandler said of adopting MultiCam uniforms for all Soldiers. "We're looking at a new Army uniform through a very deliberate process with using some technology in industry to figure out a better pattern that works in more than just Afghanistan."

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Old 06-21-11, 11:49 AM   #3
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From what I understand the new AF ABU or what ever are a single weight unlike the light weight and heavies which I fully agree with the low life span and durability on the summers lucky for me one of my tech school instructors told our class about the shiftiness and some of us took heed and bought more heavy weights.

The issue with the ABU is not so much durability it is that it is too heavy and not very breathable which is bad if an airman is not staying cool very well he wont be able to wear out his uniform.

The Velcro is mainly used on your unit patches and the like which you either take of or leave on full time seems like the Army is going back to the buttons though the main gripe with the Velcro was it getting fouled up with dirt. The Air Force seems to love the velcro and metal zippers on the ABU though but that is typical Air Force oh and they still make you wear that stupid reflective belt even in areas of know enemy activity.Not as bad as my friend a 27 year E-9 USAF back in Nam at Tong Sun Nut(near Saigon) a couple weeks before Tet some AF general did not like all the sandbags around the base buildings(which where there to provide cover from VC rocket attacks that occurred a few times a week) so they had to take them down while he was there.After he left they started setting them back up too late for my friends unit though on the night of Tet a 155 rocket hit his barracks and killed 10 airmen and wounded many more but hey it looked great without the sandbags.
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