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Old 06-14-11, 10:51 PM   #1
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Go vegetarian for a month. You will lose at least 20 lbs guaranteed.
That is nonsense, you can be vegetarian and obese, its not very hard.
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Old 06-14-11, 11:52 PM   #2
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Why do you need to lose 40 pounds in such a short span?Are you over weight? You should find out what your Body Mass Index is and what it should be if you are pretty close to the zone there is no reason to try and drop this much weight so fast.

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Is there a particular reason or are you just wishing to drop weight?

If you are just trying to drop 40 pounds in general then you dont need to do it that fast in this case start doing some exercise do some calisthenics and change your diet some guys will try and lift weights but that adds more weight(the muscle) if you don't do something else you wont lose the fat and you will only gain more weight you'll have muscle but you will also still have the fat.

I am a fairly fit person but I really dont lift much weight I do tons of push-ups,pull ups, chin ups and dips though I also do lots of running and calisthenics that really burns up fat you can jump rope or hit a speed bag or punching bag, jumping jacks thats the stuff that burns fat.

Also stay away from greasy foods(no damn fast food ****e) and junk sugary foods instead of some sugar crap eat an apple or some other fruit and drink juice or water instead of soda you will also feel better as well. If you do not change your physical habits as well as your diet your not going to get good results.Many people think of diet as something they do to lose weight when you should really think about a diet as what you normally eat a Great White Shark prefers to eat seals that is its diet this is what I mean you have to always have a good diet only eat greasy fast food stuff rarely not a few times a week.

You should ask a Doctor more about a good diet every person is a bit different to some extent what is best for them.Of course avoiding fast food and greasy high fat foods and overly sugary foods is a good idea for anyone.I used to hate PE when I was a kid but in the military I loved it and have been very active every since.

http://www.menshealth.com/ is pretty good place to get ideas from.

I agree with NeonSamuari I have a friend who is 100% vegetarian and was over weight for a few years after he "converted" from meat the reason was because he was not active.Personally I dont believe in the whole veggie thing there a things your body needs from meats as well you just have to eat meat in much lesser amounts and better types of meat.

@CCIP you are in the normal zone for your BMI so you need to just exercise more if you have some flab better start busting out the sit ups and crunches.Being in active kills you sooner or later my Grandmother is 87 years old a she walks 2 miles just about every day and does that old lady pool exercise stuff she is in very good shape.My step dad his sister more or less sat around the house when she retired and now at 77 she can hardly get around.Humans have not evolved to the generally lazy inactive life style that the modern world lets a 1st world person live our bodies need activity to stay healthy only 10,000 years ago(really until the late 19th century) we where much more active because our survival depended on it and our bodies still function the same way but most of us dont so people are unhealthy as a result.

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Old 06-15-11, 12:14 AM   #3
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Any of the following combination:

Skip lunch or skip lunch and breakfast.

Watch your dinner so not to compensate for the skipped lunch.

Limit your intake. Or only eat a little each time without skipping any. Or only eat when you feel hungry. No it doesn't mean eat when you're craving for food.

Stop snacking.

Go to work with bicycle.

Jog periodically at least 3 times a week. If your weight prevents that then walk fast for at least 40 minutes each day.

Try doing sit ups periodically. To make it harder with bent knees. Do it at least 30 each day(If you can't start with a few). Pull strings or exercise with weights periodically.

If it's within walking distance then walk than drive.

Emotional scars are usually the reason why people over eat or have an obsession on anything to an unhealthy or destructive degree. In the long run this have to be dealt with. try to be positive and cheerful in life. If you feel great you eat only what you need. You may need to change your environment so that you'll have a more positive environment to back you up(like finding new community). Anything negative or hurting must go: friends, job, relations, etc

If you have repressed anger then get a punchbag. Let it all out to it each day. It's exercise good for the body and good for the mind. When you're slim get a rifle and practice long range firing at the gun range. Good for the soul . . . . . the focus exercising will help you to calm down. But never ever handle a gun or rifle when you are angry. When you're angry go back to the punch bag.

Or take martial art commitment in the long run.
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Old 06-15-11, 10:20 AM   #4
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2.5 kg in 7 days and staying healthy? Forget it. 5lb in 5 weeks - with discipline and a strong will that can be done. 1 pound per week is something that I learned from experience to be realistic and achievable - without needing to eat like a Spartan.

As a general rule, avoid carbonhydrates, especially potatoes, pasta, sweets, rice, cerealies, and bread (eat bread as rarely and in as small quantities as your discipine allows to go!).

No sweets.

More specifically, avoid high-glycemic carbonhydrates, focus on consuming only low-glycemic carbon-hydrates.

No sweets.

Eat more protein.

No sweets.

Eat as much as you want/need in order to not be hungry. If you feel hunger, the body sooner or later reduces it's energy-balance, and your diat will become in vein.

No sweets.

No soft drinks, no chips, products with baked flour of any kind (pie, crackers).

Hunger can be easily avpoided when filling your stomahc with Tofu, eggs (best form of animal protein you can eat), and especially meager curd/quark. It is good to eat fish (fat is better than dry) and white meat (chicken), red meat should be reduced, better avoided.

Fats and oils should not be a problem if you do not exaggreate their coinsummation. But "gesättigte Fettsäuren" are forbidden. Take vegetable oil that was cold-pressed, or butter. Avoid margarine.

Avoid like the plague all meals-ready-to-eat, frozen instant dinners and dried meals that you need to cook with hot water. Avoid almost all canned food with sauces. Avoid corn in cans, and - surprise surprise, but true! - crop in general: no mueslis, that is. No sweet Kellog' cornflakes kind of stuff either. Or more easily: don't even enter a regular supermarket.

Understand the basic principle of avoiding a high glycemic load.

You must not need salad. Everybody knowing the stuff a bit knows that eating salad, cucumber and green gras is completely pointless - there is no vitmaines, minerals, or anything else in them. You could as well eat blanc paper. Salad is a waste of money, and time for preparation. If you like the tatse of green salad, okay, it will not harm you. But there is zero physical benefit from eating green salad or cucumber.

I use to lose around one pound per week when doing so^, in the first 6-8 weeks. After that, weight loss slows down, but can be managed to cintunue nevertheless. I am currently down from almost 90 kg down to 84 in around 13 weeks, I plan to drop below 80 kg (at a height of 178 cm and an age of 44).

Loosing weight by sports: you need to know one thing: it is illusory to lose wieght be sports if you do not do sports several hours a day, becasue sport so intense that you swweat for the first 30-45 minutes of activity will not do anything to your weight. Now go figure. It only works when yoiu reduce your inout of carbinbhydrates at the same time: sufficient that the body needs to tackle the fat energy-reserves, but not as much that the body calls "food emergency!" and reduces its general energy balance. The training most likely wll not directly affect your weight, but indirectly, by slowly chnaing some parameters in your organism, and affecting cardiovascular system. If you think: "I wll go jogging 40 minutes every morning now, and in four weeks I have lost 2 ilogramns due to that", you better stay in bed and watch another episode or your favourite TV series.

What it comes down to: it is a combnation of several factor that decide your weight: general living style (including both stress and sports), quality of your food, quantity of carbonhydrates consumed. Alcohol and coffee can be tolerated in reasonably quantities, but better avid hard drinks, and alcohol. Coffee does not add to your carbinhydrates balance, but coffein directly stmulates the production of insuline - which helps to turn carbonhydrates intoi fat reserves. Try other coffee or tea without coffein.


Stop smoking.

Be aware that industrial convenience food has many bad things in its sauces, that are hidden in the small print: sugar, too much salt, bad fats. Avoid convenience food alltogether.
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Old 06-15-11, 12:15 AM   #5
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Old 06-15-11, 12:18 AM   #6
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Skipping a meal is not always the best idea for some people because they will only wind up wanting to eat more the next time they eat.

Hey it is still a good topic of discussion even without the OP.
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OP Reports - I need to get rid of the 20-40lb beer belly I have.

I weigh 200 - and I'm only 5'8

I need to loose the weight. I used to be able to perma lose 5lb a week when I was in Florida for a month swimming all day every day

I'm sick of running out of energy so easily - I'm sick of women winking at my face and grimacing at my gut. I'm sick of being compared to celebs with abs.

I do 50 sit ups every night before bed - I started that last night. I ran till I was out of breath today, which was maybe 1/8th of a mile, very slowly. The only muscles in my legs worth looking at are my calves. My calves are incredible.
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Old 06-15-11, 01:00 AM   #8
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You are just going to have to work on then you wont get results over night but use that frustration as determination to improve yourself.Keep running and practice your breathing find a pace to it that helps alot.Start slow and build up from there as it gets easier push to go farther also don't give up people that are in good shape where not born that way.You will not find a Navy SEAL or Green Beret that did not want to be one 100%.If you want to feel and look better you have to have the same attitude.

You may want to seek the advice of a doctor about the over weight bit also feeling out of energy means you are not getting enough energy for some reason.Eat several cups of steamed
rice or just plain pasta(no sauce) with olive oil before you work out I mean not just before because you will end up barfing if you eat just before you go running I mean maybe 1 hour before hand.
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Joining the Army is what it took for me.

I went in at 207lbs and left basic training 8 weeks later at 170. A lean, mean fighting machine!
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Old 06-15-11, 03:21 PM   #10
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August has a point. Planning diets and excercises are good intentions that often do not last for long, like new year's eve intentions. Problem is discipline and endurance. If you have outside pressure to continue, and are left with no choice, that certainly helps.

Good alternative: swimming. If you like it (I hate it). Only few other sports use the whole range of your muscles so completely, like swimming, and effect your cardiovascular system so directly.
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August has a point. Planning diets and excercises are good intentions that often do not last for long, like new year's eve intentions. Problem is discipline and endurance.
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Or motivation. Thats one reason i prefer hiking. I leave the trailhead with an objective. Make it to (whatever) peak. When you get close to your objective, thats when you really got to dig in and push yourself forward. Once you get to the top, its always worth it for the view alone. The trek down is almost always easier, and you end up with a feeling like you accomplished something.

It's either that or go to the gym. Im not a gym rat. I find it boring, with very little reward.

Diets alone, NEVER work.
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Anthony W. you need a plan! And you need to make it your mission to adhere to it.

Calorie deficit is your means. Plus exercise.

Doing loads of situps will not make your gut smaller - spot fat reduction does not work. What you need is cardiovascular exercise (and some weight lifting maybe) to reduce overall body fat, and a carefully planned healthy diet.
Doing loads of situps as part of an exercise regime is good however

Simplest workouts are pressups/pullups/chinups/crunches/cardio - none of which require you to spend money on expensive kit.

There's lots of get fit & loose fat fast gimmicks out there, so don't be fooled into parting with your cash for something that's almost certainly too good to be true.

I like http://scoobysworkshop.com/index.htm as far as honest advice goes, there's lots of practical information for getting fit, loosing fat or being a serious curl monkey. Have a read and see what might be in line with your goals, but make sure your goals are realistic and long term.
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Or motivation.
You're both right. Endurance requires discipline and discipline requires motivation.

Motivation can be positive or negative but positive motivation is healthier and lasts longer.

Now if I would only follow my own advice!
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Joining the Army is what it took for me.

I went in at 207lbs and left basic training 8 weeks later at 170. A lean, mean fighting machine!
Wow you had me beat. I also went in at 207 pounds and came out at 177. 30 pounds on the button.

But, to be honest, I looked sickly thin. When I show pictures people often comment on how bad I looked.

Nothing like eating one small meal very fast and running ever where to get the weight down.

Ahh the good ole days in the military, boy they sucked.
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Wow you had me beat. I also went in at 207 pounds and came out at 177. 30 pounds on the button.

But, to be honest, I looked sickly thin. When I show pictures people often comment on how bad I looked.

Nothing like eating one small meal very fast and running ever where to get the weight down.

Ahh the good ole days in the military, boy they sucked.
Yeah but I still miss them sometimes. Mostly I miss being 18 I think. Being old sucks more.
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