Shadowing own taskforce

Torplexed · 05-24-11, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Prates

It could have been worst. In poor visibility conditions, it was not impossible to have mistaken friendlies for foes. Imagine sinking the Yorktown by accident. Imagine coming back to port, all cheerful like, bragging to your commanding officer that you sank a CV... "oh you SOB so that was you!"

Anyone knows of a real-life friendly-fire situations? Reagarding fleetboats, that is.

The reverse was the main problem. US submarines being mistaken for Japanese ones. A fleet boat captain could be fairly confident that once in a sea area with skies controlled exclusively by Allied land based planes he wouldn't have to worry about stumbling on a Japanese task force. However, for an Allied task force an enemy submarine could be lurking anywhere.

Stealhead · 05-24-11, 08:32 PM

I do believe that one US sub was either lost or seriously damaged due to fratricide during WWII.Of course a few times US subs and aircraft also sank ships loaded with POWs but they could not have known because the Japanese did not mark transports when they where carrying POWs.The same could apply in an open war zone you could expect any naval vessel friend or foe to be dangerous(when the friend does not your present) they did have light coded challenges to try and avoid this also a US sub could "ping" a buddy but how can the buddy know that the japs did not deploy sonar and he is discovering it?

Diopos · 05-25-11, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Stealhead

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also a US sub could "ping" a buddy but how can the buddy know that the japs did not deploy sonar and he is discovering it?

"Ping" in code ?

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Daniel Prates · 05-25-11, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Diopos

"Ping" in code ?.

Ping in morse!

ping, piiiiing, ping ping ping, piiiing ping piiing, ping, ping ping (meaning "wazzzuuup y'all")

Aviv · 05-25-11, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Daniel Prates

Ping in morse!

ping, piiiiing, ping ping ping, piiiing ping piiing, ping, ping ping (meaning "wazzzuuup y'all")

Hahahahahahaha!

But really friendly fire must have been dangerous. The same with aircraft. How can you know when a plane coming towards you is friendly? And how close does he need to be before he knows you're a friendly too?
Dangerous!

Armistead · 05-25-11, 10:53 AM

I sunk a US carrier once like this during my early play. Too far to see a flag and was the first US TF I'd ever seen, probably didn't think they existed in the game. I id'ed a "Fleet Carrier",,,figured it was JP and sent torps at it. I then ID'ed a Fletcher DD, I knew that was US..but the torps went crashing home and scratch one flattop...

Oh well, it was stock then and I sunk several merchants later and still got a medal.

WernherVonTrapp · 05-25-11, 11:13 AM

The worst things I ever did was to sink a French merchant vessel (heavy fog) and a neutral Sampan (dumb luck).
There are two websites that I use (once in a while) for quick reference. One site lists 1 sub (Seawolf) as lost to friendly fire, the other lists 2 subs (Seawolf, Dorado) lost to friendly fire.

http://www.subsowespac.org/united-st...d-war-ii.shtml

http://www.valoratsea.com/losses1.htm

I'm not sure of how accurate or up to date the stats are on these pages.

magic452 · 05-25-11, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

I sunk a US carrier once like this during my early play. Too far to see a flag and was the first US TF I'd ever seen, probably didn't think they existed in the game. I id'ed a "Fleet Carrier",,,figured it was JP and sent torps at it. I then ID'ed a Fletcher DD, I knew that was US..but the torps went crashing home and scratch one flattop...

Oh well, it was stock then and I sunk several merchants later and still got a medal.

Did almost the exact thing, except I saw a BB or cruiser that I recognized the name before I fired at the "Fleet Carrier". It was my first TF in 1.4 stock.
Scope down, dive deep and silent running just to avoid friendly fire.

Magic

deceptiboat · 05-25-11, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

I sunk a US carrier once like this during my early play. Too far to see a flag and was the first US TF I'd ever seen, probably didn't think they existed in the game. I id'ed a "Fleet Carrier",,,figured it was JP and sent torps at it. I then ID'ed a Fletcher DD, I knew that was US..but the torps went crashing home and scratch one flattop...

Oh well, it was stock then and I sunk several merchants later and still got a medal.

how the hell the navy still gave you a medal after sinking a fleet carrier

well, i often sink a friendly battleship, in pearl harbor, when i feel bored

05-25-11, 11:13 AM	#7
WernherVonTrapp Admiral Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Now, alot farther from NYC. Posts: 2,228 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	The worst things I ever did was to sink a French merchant vessel (heavy fog) and a neutral Sampan (dumb luck). There are two websites that I use (once in a while) for quick reference. One site lists 1 sub (Seawolf) as lost to friendly fire, the other lists 2 subs (Seawolf, Dorado) lost to friendly fire. http://www.subsowespac.org/united-st...d-war-ii.shtml http://www.valoratsea.com/losses1.htm I'm not sure of how accurate or up to date the stats are on these pages. __________________ "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." -Miyamoto Musashi ------------------------------------------------------- "What is truth?" -Pontius Pilate

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05-24-11, 08:32 PM	#2
Stealhead Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kentucky Posts: 5,421 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	I do believe that one US sub was either lost or seriously damaged due to fratricide during WWII.Of course a few times US subs and aircraft also sank ships loaded with POWs but they could not have known because the Japanese did not mark transports when they where carrying POWs.The same could apply in an open war zone you could expect any naval vessel friend or foe to be dangerous(when the friend does not your present) they did have light coded challenges to try and avoid this also a US sub could "ping" a buddy but how can the buddy know that the japs did not deploy sonar and he is discovering it?

05-25-11, 10:53 AM	#6
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I sunk a US carrier once like this during my early play. Too far to see a flag and was the first US TF I'd ever seen, probably didn't think they existed in the game. I id'ed a "Fleet Carrier",,,figured it was JP and sent torps at it. I then ID'ed a Fletcher DD, I knew that was US..but the torps went crashing home and scratch one flattop... Oh well, it was stock then and I sunk several merchants later and still got a medal.