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Old 05-14-11, 04:32 PM   #1
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Judging by the puffs of smoke amidships, some of the five inch secondary batteries are likely firing too.
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I believe that's the New Jersey in exercises off Puerto Rico.

USS Iowa BB-16 firing a 15 gun Broadside in 1984 So I think you are right, some of the 5 inch guns are involved.

http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-022.htm

Here is an interesting picture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Iowa_%28BB-61%29

Look at the bow (pointy end) of the Iowa. There appears to be a white wake disturbance that indicates that the bow has moved laterally. What is that white foam?
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Old 05-14-11, 06:02 PM   #2
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Look at the bow (pointy end) of the Iowa. There appears to be a white wake disturbance that indicates that the bow has moved laterally. What is that white foam?
When a heavy gun is fired, it leaves an enormous vacuum about the muzzle. Could be that it's drawing in the foam from the bow wake.
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When a heavy gun is fired, it leaves an enormous vacuum about the muzzle. Could be that it's drawing in the foam from the bow wake.
Actually it's photoshop. I've seen the exact same photo in an old book, and none of that streaking foam is in the original picture.

Here are a couple of pictures for real:





And some pretty good video:

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Actually it's photoshop. I've seen the exact same photo in an old book, and none of that streaking foam is in the original picture.

Here are a couple of pictures for real:
Those are impressive pictures. Probably more so for being relatively modern photographs in color. Sadly, most of the pictures of the great battlewagons of World Wars One or Two unloosing a broadside are in black and white if they exist at all.
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USS Iowa BB-16...
The BB-16 was the USS New Jersey, Virginia class battleship.

Trivia time, what was the last in commission BB sunk for reasons other than training or scuttling?
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The BB-16 was the USS New Jersey, Virginia class battleship.

Trivia time, what was the last in commission BB sunk for reasons other than training or scuttling?
USS Arkansas (BB-33) was sunk with nuclear weapons in Operation Crossroads on July 25th, 1946, four days before she was decommissioned.

EDIT: Oh, wait, only US ships? If not, I do believe the Novorossiysk (Formerly the Giulio Cesare) exploded and sank around 1955...
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EDIT: Oh, wait, only US ships? If not, I do believe the Novorossiysk (Formerly the Giulio Cesare) exploded and sank around 1955...
Correct.
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Ok, before you all laugh, I seem to remember being asked years ago, "if a bumble bee hit and ocean going liner head on at sea" that both would actually stop for an instance, heh. Maybe the battle ship would move slightly to one side while firing a broadside, I know I move slightly foreward when expelling sudden and violet gusts of gas, it's relative.
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A nice (if somewhat old) video of the USS Wisconsin firing her guns. Even shows them loading the shell and powder. Even has a picture in picture of the recoil of a gun.

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A nice (if somewhat old) video of the USS Wisconsin firing her guns. Even shows them loading the shell and powder. Even has a picture in picture of the recoil of a gun.

OK, lubber question: The guy in the video who is responsible for commanding the mechanism and who seals the breech, what would be his rating and rank?
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Ok, before you all laugh, I seem to remember being asked years ago, "if a bumble bee hit and ocean going liner head on at sea" that both would actually stop for an instance, heh.
And every time you jump the Earth moves the tiniest fraction of a micron.

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WHOA! Way too much information!
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Anyone remember the USS Iowa turret explosion in the late 80s?

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The BB-16 was the USS New Jersey, Virginia class battleship.

Either it was my fat finger typing 16 vice 61 or it was my dyslexia "seeing" 16 vice 61 or just my land lubbing ignorance, but in any case Mea Culpa for my mistake.

There is a big difference between BB-16 and BB-61
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