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Old 05-14-11, 01:41 PM   #1
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Too bad we couldn't have lent one of the four to the Royal Navy during the Falklands conflict in '82. Would have helped make short work of the Argentinian Army's entrenched hill positions around the port of Stanley.
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I believe that's the New Jersey in exercises off Puerto Rico.
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footnote: When all guns are fired in a broadside that ship moves laterialy sideways quite a distance in the water. WOW!!!
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footnote: When all guns are fired in a broadside that ship moves laterialy sideways quite a distance in the water. WOW!!!
That's actually a myth. We had quite a discussion on the physics of that before. When the guns are fired, the ship moves sideways at most a fraction of a millimeter
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That's actually a myth. We had quite a discussion on the physics of that before. When the guns are fired, the ship moves sideways at most a fraction of a millimeter
No...no...not this discussion again...please...god...no!!
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No...no...not this discussion again...please...god...no!!
Can I blame Obama for it?
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Can I blame Obama for it?
Blame Ronald Reagan . He's the one who brought these behemoths out of mothballs.
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No...no...not this discussion again...please...god...no!!
I remember that one, must dig it out
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That's actually a myth. We had quite a discussion on the physics of that before. When the guns are fired, the ship moves sideways at most a fraction of a millimeter
Could this be the discussion ?

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom//arc.../t-113800.html
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Yes, that would be it. I posted a link in that thread to the experts' reasons why movement is minimal, but just in case it can't be found.
http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-022.htm

Also, if you want to spend a lot of time (a big lot of time) finding out things (including why nuclear-powered aircraft carriers don't really go 50 knots, or 45, or even 40) have a look through their main page.
http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/index_tech.htm
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Aft guns appear to have fired first.

I don't think the fore most gun has even fired yet
I think you are right. In real life would all nine guns ever be fired exactly at the same time or would there be a ripple? i.e., Turret 1, turret 2, turret 3 right after another?

Can all three turrets be fired at the exact same time?


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Yes, that would be it. I posted a link in that thread to the experts' reasons why movement is minimal, but just in case it can't be found.
http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-022.htm

Also, if you want to spend a lot of time (a big lot of time) finding out things (including why nuclear-powered aircraft carriers don't really go 50 knots, or 45, or even 40) have a look through their main page.
http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/index_tech.htm

Navweps needs to be bookmarked by anyone interested in .. uh.. well.. naval weapons.

It is an awesome website!
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Judging by the puffs of smoke amidships, some of the five inch secondary batteries are likely firing too.
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I believe that's the New Jersey in exercises off Puerto Rico.

USS Iowa BB-16 firing a 15 gun Broadside in 1984 So I think you are right, some of the 5 inch guns are involved.

http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-022.htm

Here is an interesting picture.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Iowa_%28BB-61%29

Look at the bow (pointy end) of the Iowa. There appears to be a white wake disturbance that indicates that the bow has moved laterally. What is that white foam?
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Look at the bow (pointy end) of the Iowa. There appears to be a white wake disturbance that indicates that the bow has moved laterally. What is that white foam?
When a heavy gun is fired, it leaves an enormous vacuum about the muzzle. Could be that it's drawing in the foam from the bow wake.
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When a heavy gun is fired, it leaves an enormous vacuum about the muzzle. Could be that it's drawing in the foam from the bow wake.
Actually it's photoshop. I've seen the exact same photo in an old book, and none of that streaking foam is in the original picture.

Here are a couple of pictures for real:





And some pretty good video:

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Actually it's photoshop. I've seen the exact same photo in an old book, and none of that streaking foam is in the original picture.

Here are a couple of pictures for real:
Those are impressive pictures. Probably more so for being relatively modern photographs in color. Sadly, most of the pictures of the great battlewagons of World Wars One or Two unloosing a broadside are in black and white if they exist at all.
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