Computer Purchasing Question.

[the_tyrant]

the graphic card is quite bad
can you tell me how much your willing to spend? I might be able to find you a better deal

Originally Posted by the_tyrant

the graphic card is quite bad
can you tell me how much your willing to spend? I might be able to find you a better deal

well It said its 390 so lets jsut say 400 for now, I also saw that I could upgrade the graphics card and or ram instead osomething else which i may go as a toute instead??

[Sailor Steve]

My suggestion would be to get as much advice as possible from here, then go to Walmart.com, specifically this page http://www.walmart.com/ip/Build-Your...ng-PC/15374646

You can have them build exactly the one you want, then they'll ship it to your home, or, if you want to save shipping and live near a Wal*Mart, they'll ship it to the nearest store for free.

[Arclight]

Try to find something where you can select every component yourself. Pre-assembled systems (almost) always have hidden flaws, most commonly a power supply that couldn't be trusted to power a flashlight.

(seriously, #1 money-saver for them. The last thing you want to skimp on, the first one they do skimp on)

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

My suggestion would be to get as much advice as possible from here, then go to Walmart.com, specifically this page http://www.walmart.com/ip/Build-Your...ng-PC/15374646

You can have them build exactly the one you want, then they'll ship it to your home, or, if you want to save shipping and live near a Wal*Mart, they'll ship it to the nearest store for free.

wow no way?? I had no clue that this was available, Im going to see how much it will cost me!!

And Thank you arclight, that is good to know. So what happens if say you get a cheap power supply in a computer?? It ends up crapping out quicker than most or what?

But as far as price range, 400-600 would be fine for me thats without a monitor too just the hardware

EDIT: Well it looks like the Walmart build your own is out for me. I like the option and all, but it just costs too much. 800 Dollars with adding 8 gb of ram, and everything else normal, I hadn't gotten into the graphics card yet, and I cant choose EVERY component so my idea is to A get the computer I listed and just upgrade the ram and graphics card (i read someone did that to that computer when they bought it off of reviews) which would be way cheaper, I could probably deal with the crappy power supply for now. Or wait until I get some real money saved up and get a computer where I can choose every single piece that goes inside of the tower.

On that note, what are good processor mother boards? Graphics cards, Disc Drive speeds, and etc to get for gaming computers?? I mean what would be the baseline you reccomend, and what makes the most difference. I know RAM is a big one so I'm planning on getting at least 8 gigs if I can. And what kind of power supply should I be looking for to use for a gaming computer as well?

EDIT # 2: I found on that page a list of gaming computers they build and found one for 399 without monitor that comes with the following

Okay, I noticed they had bundled packages already made for ALOT cheaper than what it would have cost to build on the site, seriously half the price.

I found this one for 399 without monitor
iBUYPOWER Gamer Power Desktop PC, WA500D3:

Key Features and Benefits:

AMD Athlon II X2 250 processor
3.00GHz, 2MB L2 Cache

4GB DDR3 system memory
Gives you the power to handle the most power-hungry applications and tons of multimedia work

500GB SATA II hard drive
Store 333,000 photos, 142,000 songs or 268 hours of HD video and more

24x multi-format dual-layer DVD burner
Watch DVD movies on your computer; read and write CDs and DVDs in multiple formats

10/100/1000 Ethernet
Connect to a broadband modem or a wired broadband router with wired Ethernet

ATI Radeon HD 5450 graphics
With 512MB dedicated graphics memory
iBUYPOWER Gamer Power Desktop PC, WA500D3 Additional Features:
6 x USB 2.0 ports, 2 x PS/2 ports, 5 x audio jacks, 1 x D-Sub, 1 x RJ-45 Ethernet port, 1 x COM port, 1 x LPT port
1 x PCI Express x16 slot, 1 x PCI Express x1 slot, 2 x PCI slots; 4 x external 5.25" drive bays, 6 x internal 3.5" drive bays
8-channel high-quality audio
Gamma Gaming Tower chassis
Software:
Genuine Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Edition (To learn more about the features of Windows 7, click here)
Support and Warranty:
1-year parts and labor warranty with lifetime technical support
Restore discs are no longer included with PCs. We recommend you use the installed software to create your own restore and backup DVD the first week you use the computer.

Out of the reviews I read, they said that to play todays games on high settings, an upgrade of the Graphics Card is needed, one guy said he picked up 4670 for 70 bucks (He said his windows 7 graphics score went from 3.5 to 6.7

And that same guy also said the PSU was 480 Watts, I dont know if this is good or not for a computer.

The ram is also expandable to 8gb memory too which I think I would like to get, I have 4 in this system now and it runs pretty well but Im sure 8 would turn it into a beast.
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I also found this one for 468 without a monitor

iBUYPOWER Gamer LAN Warrior WA524D3 Desktop PC:
AMD Athlon II x3 440 (3.0GHz)

4GB DDR3 SDRAM system memory (expandable to 8GB)

Gives you the power to handle most power-hungry applications and tons of multimedia work
1TB SATA hard drive

Store 666,000 photos, 285,000 songs or 526 hours of HD video and more
24x DL DVD /-RW Drive

Watch movies, and read and write CDs and DVDs in multiple formats
10/100/1000 Ethernet LAN

Connect to a broadband modem with wired broadband router with wired Ethernet
ATI Radeon HD 5450 Graphics

With 1GB of memory

Additional Features:
6 x USB 2.0 ports, 1 x D-Sub port, 1 x COM port, 5 x audio jacks, 1 x PS/2 keyboard, 1 x PS/2 mouse, 1 x RJ-45 Ethernet port, 1 x eSATA port, 1 x LPT port
1 x PCI Express (x16) slot, 1 x PCI Express (x1) slot, 2 x PCI slots, 2 x external 5.25" bays, 2 x external 3.5" bays, 2 x internal 3.5" bays
Software:
Genuine Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Edition (To learn more about the features of Windows 7, click here)
Backup and Restore options built into Windows allows you to create safety copies of your most important personal files, so you're always prepared for the worst
Support and Warranty:
1-year parts and labor warranty with lifetime technical support
Restore discs are no longer included with PCs. We recommend you use the installed software to create your own restore and backup DVD the first week you use the computer.

Not sure on what the PSU wattage is but the one review I read said that out of the box he plays and runs Black Ops on max settings without any FPS drops without problems (He turns shadows off though)

Another guy bought it and plays a game called iRacing.com and says he plays it on all medium settings with 60fps constant and 140fps on all low settings no problem.
Can I get some more opinions guys?? Im actually really excited about this lol

[CCIP]

Your biggest problem here, aside from potentially iffy PSU wattage (which might make upgrading difficult), is the video card. Be warned that it's extremely weak and almost non-gaming-worthy. So yes, that will be bottleneck #1 - if you can get a stronger video card with it, things will be looking up. It's still not really a powerhouse and, personally, I would suggest budgeting more like $800-900 for this kind of purchase if you want to do games. It'll last you much longer as a result. So I'm not sure whether $468 + the cost of another used video card will be really worth the effort here when for even a couple of hundred bucks more you could have a much more solid system built...

[FIREWALL]

I noticed No Warrenty info. Have you looked at TigerDirect and NewEgg ?

They are haveing sales and a good selection of starter rigs.