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Old 05-10-11, 02:08 AM   #11
Onkel Neal
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It just goes to show that proof and evidence is wasted on the true believers. Disconfirmation bias and cognitive dissonance at its finest.
Hey, seriously, this whole thing is messed up. I know the birthers are sort of whacky, but the people who accept Obama on face value are exhibiting a certain level of faith and disbelief, just from the opposite direction. Come on, this is the Transparency President, what a load. Why so much drama over NOT producing a legit certificate?

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I've confirmed this for myself. I downloaded the long-form "birth certificate" from the White House website, opened it with Adobe Illustrator CS2, and the file appears in clearly altered layers, just as in the video.

Here's the PDF as supplied from the White House. Try it with Illustrator for yourself:
http://www.timkreitz.com/clientproof...-long-form.pdf

After opening it with CS2, I saved it as a version 10 EPS:
http://www.timkreitz.com/clientproof...aBirthCert.eps

This is either the most inept attempt at forging a document I've ever seen, or it was done with blatant purpose. Either way, we're dealing with an absolute and unarguably altered document. I've seen a lot of OCR and digital anomalies in document scanning over the years, but nothing like what's in the birth certificate PDF.

I'm not necessarily saying info was changed, but elements were definitely altered digitally. The question is why.

Theories? I never was a birther. This makes me start to wonder. In fact, it staggers the imagination.

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I've worked in digital graphics for going on 20 years, having worked with Illustrator since its inception. Again, my question is why screw with the document digitally at all? Why the template? Why not just scan it correctly.

For example, here's a scan I did of an old motorcycle registration certificate I found inside a motorcycle jacket given to me by my uncle. This document was old and faded, but still scanned just fine, even in low-res, on my QMS:



So legible I had to blur things out. Like I said, I'm not a birther yet, but I have questions.
Now, I know you don't want to be proven wrong after a long and vigorous defense, and after heaping ridicule on the "birthers", but.... What if there is something to this? The "certificate" came straight from the White House, this isn't some crazy stuff dug up from nowhere.

I don't have a dog in this fight, I say fait acompli, he's already president. But this has a strong odor of Dan Rather's fake documents/Morton Downey Jr. backwards swastika. You know, a birth certificate is no big deal. Trump is right, why not kill the rumors and produce it? If you don't have anything to hide, why keep hiding?
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