Downing Street shuns flagging of Euro flag

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by STEED

That's not a flag that's a big piece of fancy toilet paper.


I would not insult my own arse using that.

Time we got out me thinks

[MH]

It looks like this European experiment is going very miserably.
With all the pressure EU might end up more divided than ever before...needing saving from itself.
Another Utopian experiment?

[STEED]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Time we got out me thinks

[Jimbuna]

I'll text David and Nick with the necessary advice

[STEED]

[magic452]

You know I hope that you all will remember this and a hundred similar threads when you start to bash the good old USA saying that this or that works here in (insert any European country) so it should work in the US. That's hogwash.

The US is far more comparable to the entire EU and we can now see just how much harmony there is there now.

We have been dealing with a verity of different view points and needs, etc for 200+ years, maybe we know a thing or two about how to go about this.
Not saying we have always done a good job all the time, Lord knows we haven't, but we do have some experience with it.

We are not Finland, Germany or England, we're the USA, with the good, the bad and the ugly. But we do have one flag. We also have UBL in the bag as well.

Every time I see a thread like this and than see all of you telling us how we should run our country. I just can't help thinking these things.

Magic

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by magic452

You know I hope that you all will remember this and a hundred similar threads when you start to bash the good old USA saying that this or that works here in (insert any European country) so it should work in the US. That's hogwash.

The US is far more comparable to the entire EU and we can now see just how much harmony there is there now.

Of course we've had our moments of disharmony as well. Sometimes to extremes. No union will ever be perfect.

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Of course we've had our moments of disharmony as well. Sometimes to extremes. No union will ever be perfect.

That is the same phase here now, unionists want a strong central goverment others want to defend state rights.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by magic452

You know I hope that you all will remember this and a hundred similar threads when you start to bash the good old USA saying that this or that works here in (insert any European country) so it should work in the US. That's hogwash.

And true for the American global missionising as well! It's not as if the USA does not try and does not claim that it is the best way to live and that all others have to do it in the same way, and have to copy American ideas of how things must be run, you know.

The US is far more comparable to the entire EU and we can now see just how much harmony there is there now.

We have been dealing with a verity of different view points and needs, etc for 200+ years, maybe we know a thing or two about how to go about this.
Not saying we have always done a good job all the time, Lord knows we haven't, but we do have some experience with it.

What you do not have experience is how it is if you must unite not only different cultural habits and regional histories, but also grown, centuries-old national entities/countries. Your historyx has been short and never started on a nationalistic basis like it has grown over centuries in Europe. You for the most are the offsprings of immigrants, almost all of you, anbd people coming to you with few exceptions know that they have to leave their nationalö past they grew up in, behind them. Your civil war does not compare to the wars between european powers, becaue the two camps fought about opinions and laws, not about grown sovereign nations like in Europe.

We are not Finland, Germany or England, we're the USA, with the good, the bad and the ugly. But we do have one flag. We also have UBL in the bag as well.

You said it yourself. You are just one country. We are four dozen countries. Not federal states, but independent nations each with its own unique history and different mentality in people, different rites and habits and languages. The EU and the US - just do not compare.

Just doing it like in the good ol' USA - most of the time does not work in other parts of the world. Like the EU has its faults in it'S claim for global missionising, your country has it'S own faults as well - and the attempt to implement American models in other places: this one is the most prominent one.

On your claim for Ameeican powers, you dominate militarily, but you have started to lack more and more in other fields for whjich to find solutions the military does not help. Power also is financial, and although the Euro is ill, the dollar is even more. Power also is economy, and the GDP for of the EU is bigger than that of the US, something that many Americans comfortably overlook when refering to their claimed global dominant economic role.

[magic452]

That is exactly what I was saying.
What works there won't necessary work here.
What works here won't work there.

But my comparison of the US to the EU is far more valid than to compare
any individual EU state to the US.

Granted that our differences are small compared to those of Europe, much more difficult to obtain a consensuses there than here.

I also agree that we should keep our big noses out of your business.

I'm not arguing the strengths or weakness of either system, just I find it hard to hear all the USA bashing that goes on here and very seldom hear us bashing the EU or it's member countries.

Magic