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Old 05-04-11, 06:45 PM   #1
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He'll win next time regardless, the GOP has nothing to put up against him.
GOP can kiss that elderly base goodbye
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Old 05-04-11, 06:49 PM   #2
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He'll win next time regardless, the GOP has nothing to put up against him.
Which is a sad statement in and of itself.
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Which is a sad statement in and of itself.
We'll, he certainly isn't my first choice. I could vote GOP if I saw one possible, a moderate conservative for america, not corporations,. Fact is the GOP has become a corporate sell out and that's done nothing to create a trickle down effect.

He did try to push what he got elected for, the economic meltdown stopped much of that. The big mistake was letting the radical left run the
show, Nancy and Reid, he seemed absent.

Had the Dems kept congress, I could see him possibly losing. With the GOP in, the same crap, they'll take much of the blame now. With all the medicare cuts being proposed by the GOP, kiss the elderly vote goodbye, doesn't matter what effects them, say medicare, lose the vote. Obama is going center now just like Clinton, perfect move. Add to that a billion dollar warchest and possibly the best spokesman ever....I think he's virtually unbeatable.

The GOP will end up running some far right tea party member, they'll get the religious right, that's about it.
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hmm, killing Osama just when the national debt crisis has reached it's breaking point

ahh, lets not go into conspiracy theories
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Old 05-06-11, 10:43 AM   #5
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He'll win next time regardless, the GOP has nothing to put up against him.
Hit the nail on the head there, Armistead. The GOP has a golden opportunity to absolutely slay Obama in 2012 with the backing of the Tea-Party Republicans, but they have yet to put a candidate who is worth anything forward. I honestly cannot understand what they are thinking by backing Palin and McMahon and what have you. Every Tea-Party candidate they have has long since been invalidated by very valid arguments from the left, and the rest are Republicans or RINOs (Republicans In Name Only).

Either they are complete idiots or lack a suitable candidate or they are holding one in reserve to spring upon the 2012 elections before the left and the media have time to attack them properly. If they had such a plan, it would be a brilliant political move.

Sadly, I don't think they have such a move in mind. The Republicans do not have a united front at the party level. Powerful as it is, the Tea-Party is struggling against a very entrenched system of government. Many reps and senators in the GOP who hold places of power see the tea-party as foolish upstarts, and in their arrogant vanity they are trying to hold on to their power by using the tried-and-true method of pitting classic GOP values against the Dems and simply attacking the Democratic platform. They're just people trying to hold onto their jobs, much like the rest of us, and therefore I don't see them exploiting the Tea-Party Republicans beyond what they perceive to be an immediate gain, which is a mistake. They have also misinterpreted the tea-party as being pro-republican rather than simply anti-democratic. More the fools, they. Tea-partiers are anti-establishment.

The fact of the matter is that the basis of the Republican demographic is shifting. If the GOP refuses to acknowledge this, they are going to lose or divide the tea-party vote, which spells disaster for them in the presidential election. I can't imagine that they would be so stupid as to not realize this, but then again these are politicians we're talking about, and GOP politicians have repeatedly proven to be incompetent when it comes to popular opinion, hence the success of the populist Democratic platform.

As far as 2012 goes, it remains to be seen whether the Republicans will galvanize the Tea-Party vote or disenfranchise it by practicing politics as usual.
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