Illegal to talk to a Police Officer?

[August]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

working in a meat dept. dosen't either...but I am Expected to deal with people in a calm and respectful manner no matter what. If a 19 year old making 8.50 an hour is expected to act this way, a trained police officer on a traffic stop damn well better act like that too. Even if the passenger did "speak disrespectfully" the police officer is the professional, nobody else gets to behave in this manner and not get in trouble at work.

When was the last time you had a shootout in the meat department? Let's not compare apples and oranges here.

[Gerald]

In "normal" cases, it usually is not talking very special, for the simple reason that what has (already posted above) that the potent suspects have already been realized that any further exposition of the word, is not to his advantage, quite the opposite

[Ducimus]

Ok, i think i see the crux of the issue here. A shattered sense of fair play.
"If I have to be nice, then soinso should too! So there!"

This may be a shock to some of you, but the world is not a fair place, and not everyone follows the same set of standards. As the old saying goes, nobody EVER said life was fair.

The world in fact, is a cold hard mistress. Nobody knows this better then anyone who has to deal with the ugliness of the world, head on. While your sitting there smug with yourselves, totally absorbed in your own little world, there is a TON of crap your not seeing or dealing with.

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Ok, i think i see the crux of the issue here. A shattered sense of fair play.
"If I have to be nice, then soinso should too! So there!"

This may be a shock to some of you, but the world is not a fair place, and not everyone follows the same set of standards. As the old saying goes, nobody EVER said life was fair.

The world in fact, is a cold hard mistress. Nobody knows this better then anyone who has to deal with the ugliness of the world, head on. While your sitting there smug with yourselves, totally absorbed in your own little world, there is a TON of crap your not seeing or dealing with.

It is true, you have no experience, living far from what I would call "crap" and you're grateful you do not have to deal with it, others take care of it instead

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Vendor

It is true, you have no experience,

In law enforcement, no i don't. Although I do have a couple relatives who are in LE. Three relatives actually, now that i think of it. I contemplated LE work myself for awhile, but decided that A.) I don't care to have a job where im required to carry a weapon, and most importantly, B.) I would have a hard time "serving and protecting" the general public. I've always had what we refer to in my house as "PH level" or "public hatred level". Some days its higher then others. Suffice to say, i hate the general public.

living far from what I would call "crap"

Yes i am. Ive seen enough of the world to know how lucky i really am. I am far far far removed from the crap of the world. In fact im sheltered from it working an offiice job, living in a cubicle, and i know it. I know it because i wasn't always sheltered. By my standards, i haven't been living in the "real world" for some time. Ive seen it before, and it sure as s _ _ t aint the life im living now. My biggest concern is if ill get laid off, thats IT. Comparitively, that's a trivial worry.

and you're grateful you do not have to deal with it,

Yes i am. I know how ugly the world, and people, can be.

others take care of it instead

Thats why they have the badge, and I respect that.

[DarkFish]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

My biggest concern is if ill get laid

fixed that for you

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

In law enforcement, no i don't. Although I do have a couple relatives who are in LE. Three relatives actually, now that i think of it. I contemplated LE work myself for awhile, but decided that A.) I don't care to have a job where im required to carry a weapon, and most importantly, B.) I would have a hard time "serving and protecting" the general public. I've always had what we refer to in my house as "PH level" or "public hatred level". Some days its higher then others. Suffice to say, i hate the general public.




Yes i am. Ive seen enough of the world to know how lucky i really am. I am far far far removed from the crap of the world. In fact im sheltered from it working an offiice job, living in a cubicle, and i know it. I know it because i wasn't always sheltered. By my standards, i haven't been living in the "real world" for some time. Ive seen it before, and it sure as s _ _ t aint the life im living now. My biggest concern is if ill get laid off, thats IT. Comparitively, that's a trivial worry.


Yes i am. I know how ugly the world, and people, can be.


Thats why they have the badge, and I respect that.

Duc! What I wrote in my post was not directed personally, as I think you already understood, what I am saying is that some times there are many things involved, and in terms of jobs, it is often about timing, and the chance to do everything , interest naturally,but I'm glad you mention the word respect, which many take for granted that there is only so must be."Thats why they have the badge, and I respect that",very good

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by August

When was the last time you had a shootout in the meat department? Let's not compare apples and oranges here.

I saw no bullets flying in that video either august. Before the person even got out of the car the cop was already being extremely rude to him.

why don't you stop comparing apples to oranges, because a simple traffic stop is not a gunfight. you're "dangerous Job" argument really doesn't apply in this case. why you might ask? Because if a cop does what he is supposed to do, he is trying not to provoke people. Yelling at otherwise peaceful citizens is counter to what a cop is supposed to do, and can only provoke violence.

[August]

Originally Posted by gimpy117

I saw no bullets flying in that video either august. Before the person even got out of the car the cop was already being extremely rude to him.

why don't you stop comparing apples to oranges, because a simple traffic stop is not a gunfight. you're "dangerous Job" argument really doesn't apply in this case. why you might ask? Because if a cop does what he is supposed to do, he is trying not to provoke people. Yelling at otherwise peaceful citizens is counter to what a cop is supposed to do, and can only provoke violence.

Well you're wrong.

Every traffic stop has the potential to turn deadly. Every one. If you don't realize that you have no conception of what a policemans job entails.

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by August

Well you're wrong.

Every traffic stop has the potential to turn deadly. Every one. If you don't realize that you have no conception of what a policemans job entails.

did you not notice how the cop instigated things bell yelling at the person? He had no right to do that, if he had not yelled at them nothing would have happened. He started it, he was wrong to do so...cut and dry.

[Wolfehunter]

I never had an issue yet personally with cops when I was pulled over. he didn't even have to ask I had the papers readied. We both knew what I did wrong. So there was no need to argue. I think he knew that I knew I was caught. My damn squeaky wheels when I turned from a wrong lane and cut off another lane.. ---- For a month everybody was doing it.. I figured I take the chance.. That damn day there was cops at the corner.. I would have made it but my wheels squealed when I turned hard.

$51 dollars ticket.. never did it again hehe..

did you not notice how the cop instigated things bell yelling at the person?

You cannot say that as you don't know what went on before the cop returned to the car.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

You cannot say that as you don't know what went on before the cop returned to the car.

I'll bet that statement can be applied to the majority of threads like this on the internet. People don't care what went on before hand, particularly if it would justify any actions the cop took. All they want is the slightest reason to be able shake their fist in the air and yell fight the power. Especially on the internet. Its like a fad. They want to be able to tell cops how to do their jobs, without walking even a 50 yards in their shoes, let alone a mile. Far too many people think their special, and cops are an object of hatred because they're the ones who remind folks they aren't.

And in california, there are A LOT of special people. They must be special, because the way they act, apparently the rules don't apply to them.

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

You cannot say that as you don't know what went on before the cop returned to the car.

so? still no reason to yell at someone