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Old 04-26-11, 10:36 AM   #1
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There has to be a facility someplace. The POWs there are not mistreated, and they should not see trial until hostilities are over.
No, they're not POW's. They're not held according to the standards POW's should be held at. And you're twisting in weird ways here to say that they're POW's while at the same time they're not. Make a choice.

Also: torturing isn't mistreating?
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My point is that there is nothing to see here, move along. The number held is insignificant, and any wrongful loss of liberty is insignificant compared to the alternatives (wrongful deaths trumping wrongful imprisonment). Complaining about the existence of a camp to hold detainees is, well, absurd. Again, the alternative is to never detain anyone, which means surrender, or wholesale slaughter of anyone near any "actionable" intelligence.
Another alternative is that they're given a fair trial. You realize that your argument here can be made for domestic criminals too? Do you support the president and/or CIA singling out citizens in your city to be imprisoned without trial?
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Old 04-26-11, 11:13 AM   #2
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No, they're not POW's. They're not held according to the standards POW's should be held at. And you're twisting in weird ways here to say that they're POW's while at the same time they're not. Make a choice.
Its a twisted wired war with lots of contradictions.
Its not exactly that US is fighting Afghan army.
US is fighting religious fanatics and murderers to whom its difficult to apply normative rules.
They are not regular army POWS they are terrorist who don't use western rules of engagement and conducts.
Who never heard of Geneva Conversion but just Allah will.

The evidence obtained against them while solid may not necessary be acceptable in court of law for various reasons.
Not necessarily torture.
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Old 04-26-11, 11:41 AM   #3
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I think Taters right. We should have just executed those AQ killers upon capture, preferably in a nice gory and painful way.

After all nobody gave a nice cushy cell and a personal copy of the Koran to any of the 9-11 victims.

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