German Navy ExPack1.01 Released Plus Hotfix

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Originally Posted by sergbuto

Forums are forums. They are created for a discussion of different things and moral issues are not an exception. X1 Software was brought up exactly because of signs of similarity between the moral behind the X1 Software thing and this situation.

How many times one should ask politely for a deserved correction? Is one time should be enough? Or should it be two or maybe five times?

The basis for cooperation is indeed respect which was broken in the very beginning and repeatedly denied.

Huh? X1 was selling modders work for profit.

Gibs is releasing new units for free.

What a ridiculous comparison!

As far as I can see it - anyone can check the thread for themselves -, the history goes like this:

1) Gibs releases units, but doesn't mention that he used type941's skins
2) type941 immediately tells gibs that he hasn't included credits and that this 'is not cool by me'
3) Gibs apologises, saying:

My apologies hey, Late night and I just plain forgot the readme. But its such a distinct skin that I feel there is no fear that ppl wont know its based on your skin. The reason I choose it should be self eveident, its just plain good.

And that

soon there will be a hotfix with also due credit in the readme. Again my apologies for the oversight.

Where's the "disrespect from the beginning" here?

4) After about a page of fruitful and respectful discussion, you launch in with the comment that

It is increasingly starting to look like you avoid giving appropriate credits when you use somebodyelse´s work unless you are pointed out. The second (grey) skin in the Type36 folder is also made by Type941 but it is not mentioned in readme. In turn, I also think that Type36 is based on multi-skinned version of Type34 from my mod of multi-skinned warships.

That rather snide quote is precisely what caused the furore.

5) Gibs responds that

I was however under the impression it was the standed skins, but as I said, to many mods to keep track of.

Then he suggests that

I think that from now on I'm just gonna use a blank broad statement to say something alone the lines of "To any/all mods that I have expanded on and you know who you are that made them - Thank you" , and not have to bother trying to work out what was bloody what!

Which is an understandable response. I know quite well personally from putting together IuB that it's a head-wrecker trying to keep all the credits and documentation up to date.

What does he get for this? Instant condemnation from again, you that

That is not a good excuse for mis-presenting somebodyelse's work so that ppl would think it was done by you. ... I guess it is a good idea for the X1-Software company so that they can use any mod they wish for their purposes.

Again, you imply malice where there was none, and compare him to X1 software. This gives the go-ahead for JSCones and Avon Lady to issue their waves of condemnation, which further inflames the situation.

Need I go on?

About the best thing I can say about your behaviour is that you no tact.

Also note that you have also sucessfully dissuaded others from releasing units to this community. (Previous poster)