Confusion Over Policy on Married Gay Immigrants

[Bakkels]

The law isn't meant to be clear so everybody can understand, it's meant to prevent crimes and bring justice. The world isn't black and white.
If your words call for people to use violence, or if what you say is racist, then yes, it's illegal.
In fact, our constitution is quite clear about this. And forgive me if I'm mistaken, but isn't racism illegal in the states too? That's what the Wilders trial is about; he isn't even convicted yet; it's civil court; people who felt offended and discriminated started a trial, it's not like he's been arrested or anything.
I understand what you mean, but it's not like the government is deciding what you can and cannot say. It's judges who ultimately decide that here. I'm not saying it's a perfect system, but what is? You've got to draw some lines to prevent people from abusing 'freedom of speech' to be racist or even cause violence.

[Growler]

Originally Posted by Bakkels

The law isn't meant to be clear so everybody can understand, it's meant to prevent crimes and bring justice.

This is where I beg to differ: If the law is not clear enough that even the simplest uneducated person can understand it, then there cannot be justice in its application.

The US of A goes to the other extreme, even allowing wackos to protest military funerals in the name of free speech...

It is in effect exactly the same, those wackos have to be very careful they don't cross the line either, you have to ensure you are staying within the law when exercising your rights
Holland has it set up in a relatively freshly written constitution to go by which takes previous legal challenges and rulings in hand, America has an old crusty constitution and has freshly written legal rulings and challenges which it has to take in hand and match to an elderly document.

As for that pillock wilders, its very simple. He stated his intention and it was nothing to do with free speech, though he did look very silly when his attempt was laughed at and didn't get the response he aimed for.
I suppose thats why he is dressing himsdelf up as a martyr now to see if he can con people that way.