Coffee Cups in Hell

[tater]

Originally Posted by Vendor

TBut as Terry Teachout wrote in The Wall Street Journal: “Making fun of Mormons in front of a Broadway crowd is like shooting trout in a demitasse cup. ... If the title of this show were ‘The Quran,’ it wouldn’t have opened.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/27/op...me&ref=general

So true.

BTW, how many calls for death to Parker and Stone have erupted from the incensed Mormon community? Too many to count?

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by tater

So true.

BTW, how many calls for death to Parker and Stone have erupted from the incensed Mormon community? Too many to count?

[Sailor Steve]

None that I've heard, but though I live in the heart of Mormonville I lead a fairly uninformed life.

On the other hand the local improv group 'Laughing Stock' recently had a long-running show called "Transmorfers: Mormon Meets The Eye", and got no complaints at all.

[Gargamel]

I'm pretty neutral to letting religions do their thing, as they are great community outreach programs and places for people to find the solace and comfort they require.

But the more flak the mormons can take, the happier I am . My wife was excommunicated from the mormon church just because we shared a house. The council of elders (or whatever) called her a whore to her face.

So the mormons can just stick it.

A whole religion based on some tablets a crazy dude claimed he found in the woods, and only he could read? And then all that based on top of some crap a burning plant told some old guy?

Sorry, no trolling intended here. Just my personal opinion based on personal experiences.

[Torplexed]

Originally Posted by Gargamel

A whole religion based on some tablets a crazy dude claimed he found in the woods, and only he could read? And then all that based on top of some crap a burning plant told some old guy?

Sorry, no trolling intended here. Just my personal opinion based on personal experiences.

Quite a feat of navigation was performed in ancient times according to the Book of Mormon. That a group left Jerusalem after it's fall to Babylon, crossed the Arabian Peninsula and sailed from there to North America without a compass or map. But I guess it's no more fanciful than the Ark and the Great Flood which many believe in.

[Gargamel]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Quite a feat of navigation was performed in ancient times according to the Book of Mormon. That a group left Jerusalem after it's fall to Babylon, crossed the Arabian Peninsula and sailed from there to North America without a compass or map. But I guess it's no more fanciful than the Ark and the Great Flood which many believe in.

The ark/noah can be attributed to an oral history passed down over generations, and then slowly tailored to fit the story tellers needs. I think it arose from when the Bosphorus broke open and connected the then tiny Black Sea to the Med. The fact that most major religions have some sort of flood story gives credence to something happening.

But when the stories are chock full of details that make no sense....

That's really odd, because I've been told here at SS (many times) that Islam is no different than any other religion in terms of violence, repression, etc. So there must be the same number of protests, death threats, actual deaths, etc that we'd see in any country where the % of Muslims is the same as the Utah % of Mormons.

Hey Dorothy how is that strawman coming along?

My suggestion would be to start by having some of the usual apologists for Islam on the boards to head to, say Lebanon, then act as street performers making fun of Muhammad as street entertainers

My suggestion is that you go to Lebanon and do a comedy routine about Jesus...oh sorry thats not allowed, I guess you struck out there, nice try though.
Why not use Saudi as an example tater, that way it won't backfire on you

[tater]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Quite a feat of navigation was performed in ancient times according to the Book of Mormon. That a group left Jerusalem after it's fall to Babylon, crossed the Arabian Peninsula and sailed from there to North America without a compass or map. But I guess it's no more fanciful than the Ark and the Great Flood which many believe in.

In another thread once I think I calculated that for 40 days/nights of rain to deposit a boat high up the mountain they claim it landed on it needed to rain over 160 inches per hour. At a slightly lower elevation, say 12,000 feet, it's only 150 inches per hour. Heck, let's make it 6k feet, then only 75 inches per hour! Course much of the world (and population) is therefor not bumped off. Of course the highest rainfall every recorded was very similar to that value... but it was 71 inches over 24 hours. Highest ever recorded in 1 minute was 1.5 inches (90 inches per hour). Of course every other minute was less than that, and the highest total in an hour is only ~12 inches.

While a flood (a tsunami, or something like one in effect) would be truly devastating, it makes the entire point of "the flood" sort of moot, because instead of smiting the wicked, it simply smites people below a certain altitude, lol.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by tater

In another thread once I think I calculated that for 40 days/nights of rain to deposit a boat high up the mountain they claim it landed on it needed to rain over 160 inches per hour.

Noah: "How you gonna do it?"
God: "I'm gonna make it rain 4,000 days and drown 'em right out!"
Noah: "Listen, do this: Make it rain 40 days and 40 nights and wait for the sewers to back up!"
God: "Riiiight!"

One of the best skits ever.

[AngusJS]

Originally Posted by Torplexed

Quite a feat of navigation was performed in ancient times according to the Book of Mormon. That a group left Jerusalem after it's fall to Babylon, crossed the Arabian Peninsula and sailed from there to North America without a compass or map. But I guess it's no more fanciful than the Ark and the Great Flood which many believe in.

It's a shame that genetics have proven that Native Americans are not Semetic, but are were originally from Asia.

But did that fact change Mormon belief? Nope.

Mormonism is proof that you can get people to believe absolutely anything (especially when you indoctrinate them when they're kids).

Originally Posted by tater

The % is similar for Brunei, Chad, Lebanon, Malaysia. Slightly lower than Sudan.

Jeez, I didn't know that Utah had a third-world economy or education system.

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by AngusJS

Jeez, I didn't know that Utah had a third-world economy or education system.

No comment on that , but you're right, the demographics, education and wealth are a little different in Utah than in the countries which tater mentioned...

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by Gargamel

I'm pretty neutral to letting religions do their thing, as they are great community outreach programs and places for people to find the solace and comfort they require.

But the more flak the mormons can take, the happier I am . My wife was excommunicated from the mormon church just because we shared a house. The council of elders (or whatever) called her a whore to her face.

So the mormons can just stick it.

A whole religion based on some tablets a crazy dude claimed he found in the woods, and only he could read? And then all that based on top of some crap a burning plant told some old guy?

Sorry, no trolling intended here. Just my personal opinion based on personal experiences.

When it comes to your personal experiences, which do you think would fit on the above subject, purely crass......

[tater]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

None that I've heard, but though I live in the heart of Mormonville I lead a fairly uninformed life.

On the other hand the local improv group 'Laughing Stock' recently had a long-running show called "Transmorfers: Mormon Meets The Eye", and got no complaints at all.

That's really odd, because I've been told here at SS (many times) that Islam is no different than any other religion in terms of violence, repression, etc. So there must be the same number of protests, death threats, actual deaths, etc that we'd see in any country where the % of Muslims is the same as the Utah % of Mormons.

In fact, this is an excellent test case. Apparently ~60% of Utah residents are Mormons. The % is similar for Brunei, Chad, Lebanon, Malaysia. Slightly lower than Sudan.

So we can compare how large public "attacks" on Islam go over in some of those countries. My suggestion would be to start by having some of the usual apologists for Islam on the boards to head to, say Lebanon, then act as street performers making fun of Muhammad as street entertainers (in the appropriate language so they get the jokes). They should be perfectly safe.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by tater

That's really odd, because I've been told here at SS (many times) that Islam is no different than any other religion in terms of violence, repression, etc. So there must be the same number of protests, death threats, actual deaths, etc that we'd see in any country where the % of Muslims is the same as the Utah % of Mormons.

Sorry, I missed the sarcasm in your first post. No, we don't have any burning effigies or people demanding their heads on pikes. There might be a couple of letters to the local paper complaining, but that's about it. In fact I was unaware of this play until Vendor linked the article.

In fact, this is an excellent test case. Apparently ~60% of Utah residents are Mormons. The % is similar for Brunei, Chad, Lebanon, Malaysia. Slightly lower than Sudan.

True, but it's just the opposite in the hub. Salt Lake City itself is only about 30% LDS, mainly due to the Mormons having the "Old Money" and moving out of downtown when the first suburbs began springing up in the 1920s. Anti-Mormon protesters are a fairly regular sight downtown, in the vicinity of the main Temple. In spite of the ocassional heated exchange I've never heard of a fistfight breaking out, let alone real violence.