Knut the Polar Bear Dies Young

Skybird · 03-22-11, 09:59 AM

After they had the body on the table, doctors say the bear had a brain-based disease. Knut started to turn in place , then fell into the water, and drowned, says the news.

Zoos can be habitats for some animals only. It must not even be big animals like elephants to question the concept. Highgly intelligent animals like apes, social animals being held in small groups or alone, and big cats in cages, are just sad and deeply depressing sights to me. Also, dolphins and orcas in seaworlds.

But I enjoy big aquariums with small tropical fishes any time. But by "big" I mean "big", even if the fishes are small.

Feuer Frei! · 03-22-11, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Zoos can be habitats for some animals only. It must not even be big animals like elephants to question the concept. Highgly intelligent animals like apes, social animals being held in small groups or alone, and big cats in cages, are just sad and deeply depressing sights to me. Also, dolphins and orcas in seaworlds.

I concur

Takeda Shingen · 03-22-11, 10:51 AM

I generally agree with the sadness of animal captivity. These animals have instincts to run, jump, swim, forage and hunt, and as they are deprived of this, they do appear unhappy in the cages and pens. That being said, the German zoo in questions was trying to provide Knut a place to live and be after being abandoned, so I don't fault them in their efforts.

Penguin · 03-22-11, 11:16 AM

I was sad!

RIP Knut!

I hope his story brought many people to think about the fate of these beautiful creatures.

That being said, I think many zoos in Germany improved over the last 20,30 years, though it certainly is not a natural surrounding, but at least they try to make an effort.
The worst are the small private zoos and the circusses....

I personally support a bear shelter, which takes mistreated bears and provides them an appropriate surrounding in a forest environment. You can't put these creatures back into the wild, as they never developed the skills to survive without help, but there they can live at least the rest of their lives without suffering.

Takeda Shingen · 03-22-11, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Penguin

The worst are the small private zoos and the circusses....

Circuses are nortorious for their treatment of the animals.

Freiwillige · 03-22-11, 11:53 AM

autopsy report

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110322...20110322144737

Torvald Von Mansee · 03-22-11, 12:10 PM

RIP

03-22-11, 09:59 AM	#1
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,709 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	After they had the body on the table, doctors say the bear had a brain-based disease. Knut started to turn in place , then fell into the water, and drowned, says the news. Zoos can be habitats for some animals only. It must not even be big animals like elephants to question the concept. Highgly intelligent animals like apes, social animals being held in small groups or alone, and big cats in cages, are just sad and deeply depressing sights to me. Also, dolphins and orcas in seaworlds. But I enjoy big aquariums with small tropical fishes any time. But by "big" I mean "big", even if the fishes are small. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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03-22-11, 10:51 AM	#3
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I generally agree with the sadness of animal captivity. These animals have instincts to run, jump, swim, forage and hunt, and as they are deprived of this, they do appear unhappy in the cages and pens. That being said, the German zoo in questions was trying to provide Knut a place to live and be after being abandoned, so I don't fault them in their efforts.

03-22-11, 11:16 AM	#4
Penguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Rheinische Republik Posts: 3,322 Downloads: 92 Uploads: 0	I was sad! RIP Knut! I hope his story brought many people to think about the fate of these beautiful creatures. That being said, I think many zoos in Germany improved over the last 20,30 years, though it certainly is not a natural surrounding, but at least they try to make an effort. The worst are the small private zoos and the circusses.... I personally support a bear shelter, which takes mistreated bears and provides them an appropriate surrounding in a forest environment. You can't put these creatures back into the wild, as they never developed the skills to survive without help, but there they can live at least the rest of their lives without suffering.

03-22-11, 11:53 AM	#6
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	autopsy report http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110322...20110322144737