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Old 03-17-11, 02:24 PM   #1
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I believe that this is where theoretical libertarianism fails in the face of the real world. How can your market based solution act in the face of untracable pollution? How do consumers know what percentage of smog is due to which oil refinery or petrochemical plant?

Let's take a look at some scenes from China, where environmental regulations are lax to non-existant:






Point made, sure the GOP would lax some standards, but were not talking this. Course it's places like this our corporations go to to make big money.
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Course it's places like this our corporations go to to make big money.
Proving that if given the chance, they'll put profits above all else. Their shareholders demand nothing less.

I don't want to hold the EPA up as a model bureaucracy, because a lot of what they do is red tape and BS, but to say that means that the goal of imposing regulations to protect our environment is foolish is wrong.
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i dont think anyone would say regulating the care for our environment is foolish.

i would think that a fair amount of the regulation is "trivial" though

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what i mean by trivial and by my previous comments is simple:

obviously you dont want a construction company storing gasoline in one of these


but im talking about shutting down the construction of a school for an entire day because they had these


instead of these







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Indeed. They should be worrying about major air and water polluters instead of Joe Sixpack filling up his lawnmower. I will agree with you there.
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Indeed. They should be worrying about major air and water polluters instead of Joe Sixpack filling up his lawnmower. I will agree with you there.
praise the lord and pass the ammunition. thats exactly right. Regulate the companies that produce tons of chemicals per week... but leave joe sixpack alone... we are in dire straits when joe cannot go to the corner store and buy a gas can that doesnt require a 3 page instruction manual.

mookie, run for congress with me, we might be able to get this country through the storm.
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Heh, I can see it now.. the future of America, as dictated by the corporate purchased Grand Ole Party.

Pesky EPA obviously needs to go if it cuts into the bottom line. Not making enough profit. Big Corporate need MORE!!!!

I have a sneaky suspicion that when China finally catch's up with modern enviromental standards (if ever), the corporate fat cats won't outsource there so much.
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The pictures are terrible. Too bad the Chinese government can't regulate its state-managed corporations as well as it does the Internet and Google.
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praise the lord and pass the ammunition. thats exactly right. Regulate the companies that produce tons of chemicals per week... but leave joe sixpack alone... we are in dire straits when joe cannot go to the corner store and buy a gas can that doesnt require a 3 page instruction manual.

mookie, run for congress with me, we might be able to get this country through the storm.
Sweet jeebus, the world really is coming to an end. Mookie must be playing with GB gold coins again.
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