Dowly, Stug!

[Raptor1]

Indeed.

Oh, do note that some Assault Guns, such as the KV-2 and the Churchill AVRE, did have turrets. Though they still don't really count as tanks because of their low velocity guns and specialized design.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Raptor1

Oh, do note that some Assault Guns, such as the KV-2 and the Churchill AVRE, did have turrets. Though they still don't really count as tanks because of their low velocity guns and specialized design.

Exactly, its not the equipment so much as the role. Any armored vehicle with a DF heavy gun used to support Infantry could be considered an Assault Gun, turret or no turret.

BTW, the Churchill AVRE didn't technically have a gun during the war, its main weapon was a huge spigot mortar. It got a low velocity gun post war.

[Freiwillige]

Indeed and another example is the M-10 and M-18 hellcat of the us Army, they were tank destroyers but had turrets.

[Growler]

Originally Posted by Freiwillige

Indeed and another example is the M-10 and M-18 hellcat of the us Army, they were tank destroyers but had turrets.

But because the US Army liked to keep its TD crews cold, wet, miserable, and unprotected, for some absurd reason, they never finished the turret roof, which made these vehicles' crews especially vulnerable to tree-burst artillery and even small arms fire.

[Freiwillige]

Originally Posted by Growler

But because the US Army liked to keep its TD crews cold, wet, miserable, and unprotected, for some absurd reason, they never finished the turret roof, which made these vehicles' crews especially vulnerable to tree-burst artillery and even small arms fire.

Weight savings I assume. They were designed to shoot and scoot! Low armor and high speed. Although during Korea they added metal flaps that could be folded over the opening to protect from debris.

Back to the Stug video. That thing once hosed off looks like it went into the bog yesterday! I cannot believe how well preserved it is!!!

[AVGWarhawk]

Nice find.

[UnderseaLcpl]

I have a somewhat-related question to ask about the StuG for our German-speaking members. How do you pronounce StuG?

I only ask because I've been having a debate over the pronunciation with my father for years. He insists it is pronounced as per English phonetics. I insist that it is a contraction of the word Sturmgeschutz and should be pronounced as "Stoog" - "not "stooge", mind you, that's a hard "G".

[Growler]

Originally Posted by Raptor1

Indeed.

Oh, do note that some Assault Guns, such as the KV-2 and the Churchill AVRE, did have turrets. Though they still don't really count as tanks because of their low velocity guns and specialized design.

That has a lot to do with the designation - a low-velocity primary armament almost immediately defines the vehicle's role as indirect-fire capable infantry support. AT Guns, TDs, and tanks are direct-fire weapons (not saying they can't be used for indirect fire, but that's not their designed intent.)

Assault guns (esp. the short-barrel 75s) can fire both direct and indirect missions using the same primary weapon with little to no change in operation.