Will Walker win?

gimpy117 · 03-03-11, 02:45 PM

Im glad to see his ratings tank. you can't just get rid of collective bargaining and then slash corporate taxes without somebody getting mad.

Freiwillige · 03-03-11, 03:25 PM

I am all for him, I hope he kicks the unions in the nuts!

Corporations raping from the top and unions raping from the bottom its amazing we average Americans get any scraps at all.

gimpy117 · 03-03-11, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Freiwillige

I am all for him, I hope he kicks the unions in the nuts!

Corporations raping from the top and unions raping from the bottom its amazing we average Americans get any scraps at all.

huh??? Unions give better wages for the people. the people who are complaining are the people at the top who think it hurts your bottom line

tater · 03-03-11, 05:18 PM

Public employees should not be allowed to unionize at all.

They have a mechanism to demand better contracts, it's called the political system. Our elected representatives should be free to set salaries, and hire and fore at will. The current system allows them to in effect elect their own bosses, and the very people who decide what they get paid.

There is no balance at all, unlike in the private sector where if a union demands too much, they literally put themselves out of work as they cause their employer to fail (look at GM, the only reason this didn't happen was they were bailed out (make no mistake, the bailout was for the UNION (payback), not for GM)).

Bubblehead1980 · 03-03-11, 07:15 PM

Most polls associated with the WI teacher issue that suddenly show Walker's approval in decline and more support for the Union are skewed and giving a false picture of their support.The polls showed a split with a slight lead for Walker's plan then all of sudden a CBS poll showed different, NY times followed, like magically overnight the numbers change.They started sampling DEMOCRATS only. Can't find the link right now but also heard O'Reilly talking about it and believe it's true, CBS is in the tank for left wing, obviously.

I believe Walker will ultimately get what he wants, citizens know it is needed.

August · 03-03-11, 09:33 PM

already addressed

Armistead · 03-03-11, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by gimpy117

Im glad to see his ratings tank. you can't just get rid of collective bargaining and then slash corporate taxes without somebody getting mad.

I don't think unions should be public, since the taxpayers don't get a vote in it, but with the corporate rape, we'll all have to get in a union to try and get benefits in the future.

gimpy117 · 03-03-11, 07:43 PM

true...policy should set public employees...but is he getting rid of collective bargaining for all or just public employees?

Blood_splat · 03-03-11, 07:56 PM

tater · 03-03-11, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gimpy117

true...policy should set public employees...but is he getting rid of collective bargaining for all or just public employees?

The WI bill is only for public employees. The news and unions don't want you to know that, perhaps, but that's all we're talking about. ONLY WI State employees, no one else.

gimpy117 · 03-03-11, 08:38 PM

oh boy. and the conspiracy theories come out. "the unions don't want you to know"

tater · 03-03-11, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by gimpy117

oh boy. and the conspiracy theories come out. "the unions don't want you to know"

They protest as if this is an attack on ALL unions, don't they?

nikimcbee · 03-03-11, 09:54 PM

I think they should pass the bill, so they can find out what's in the bill.

gimpy117 · 03-03-11, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tater

They protest as if this is an attack on ALL unions, don't they?

well to be honest, it's a start...and thats scary.

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tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Public employees should not be allowed to unionize at all. They have a mechanism to demand better contracts, it's called the political system. Our elected representatives should be free to set salaries, and hire and fore at will. The current system allows them to in effect elect their own bosses, and the very people who decide what they get paid. There is no balance at all, unlike in the private sector where if a union demands too much, they literally put themselves out of work as they cause their employer to fail (look at GM, the only reason this didn't happen was they were bailed out (make no mistake, the bailout was for the UNION (payback), not for GM)). __________________ "Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state, an intolerable one." — Thomas Paine

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August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,249 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	already addressed __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

03-03-11, 07:43 PM	#8
gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	true...policy should set public employees...but is he getting rid of collective bargaining for all or just public employees? __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

03-03-11, 08:38 PM	#11
gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	oh boy. and the conspiracy theories come out. "the unions don't want you to know" __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

03-03-11, 03:25 PM	#2
Freiwillige The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phx. Az Posts: 1,458 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	I am all for him, I hope he kicks the unions in the nuts! Corporations raping from the top and unions raping from the bottom its amazing we average Americans get any scraps at all.

03-03-11, 07:15 PM	#5
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,191 Downloads: 621 Uploads: 44	Most polls associated with the WI teacher issue that suddenly show Walker's approval in decline and more support for the Union are skewed and giving a false picture of their support.The polls showed a split with a slight lead for Walker's plan then all of sudden a CBS poll showed different, NY times followed, like magically overnight the numbers change.They started sampling DEMOCRATS only. Can't find the link right now but also heard O'Reilly talking about it and believe it's true, CBS is in the tank for left wing, obviously. I believe Walker will ultimately get what he wants, citizens know it is needed.

03-03-11, 07:56 PM	#9
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nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I think they should pass the bill, so they can find out what's in the bill. __________________

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