Cost of gas in your area?

[tater]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Oil companies can pretty much charge whatever they want, and we'll pay it. We always do. It's not like we have a choice.

And what "they want" is grossly lower than prices in Europe, and pretty much the rest of the developed world.

Having an energy policy apparently means $6-10/gal gas.

Just sayin'.

[nikimcbee]

now up to ~$3.60s/ gallon

[Ducimus]

Think I paid 3.75 last week.


As per the oil companies. There is no argument that can justify how much profit they were (are) making while at the same time they raised gas prices. Im referring to the last time gas went up. I know it was in the 4 dollar range. I know this because at the time, i was driving 70 miles per day, filling up every 4 days, at.. now that i think about it.... 4.35 or so? It was in that ball park.

So im shelling out more cash, and the oil companies announce BILLIONS IN PROFIT. There is no justification for that. But there's a name for it. It's called GOUGING. No amount fancy corporate speak can tap dance around that.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

Think I paid 3.75 last week.


As per the oil companies. There is no argument that can justify how much profit they were making while at the same time they raised gas prices. Im referring to the last time gas went up. I know it was in the 4 dollar range. I know this because at the time, i was driving 70 miles per day, filling up once a week, at.. now that i think about it.... 4.35 or so? It was in that ball park.

So im shelling out more cash, and the oil companies announce BILLIONS IN PROFIT. There is no justification for that. But there's a name for it. It's called GOUGING.

How much of that goes to Kali-fornia in taxes?

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by nikimcbee

How much of that goes to Kali-fornia in taxes?

More then a normal state. Whatever your paying, its 10 cents more in california, at the very least. The reasons because the smog gestapo here demands a cleaner formula.

The end result is the oil companies price gouging, whenever someone sneezes in the middle east, all the more painful.

And yeah, given their profits, i see no justification for the prices other then pure corporate GREED. I mean seriously, are they using Libya as their excuse this time? I'm not "buying" that excuse, not for one freaking minute.

[Penguin]

I would say that the amount of money which us Europeans spend on petrol is about the same than the USAnians spend on gas.
Especially in the cities here you are much less dependant on a car than over the pond. The commute way to work is usually much shorter and the average mpg of the car fleet here is less than in the US. So I think with these adjusting factors the oils prices put the same hole in all our wallets.

Originally Posted by tater

The light rail in LA is so cost ineffective that all the lower income riders could be given a new Prius every 5 years, and have all costs associated with operating it paid for, and LA would still save money. Japan's rail system is also a known problem in terms of cost.

Nice idea, but it needs to at least break even with fares including a subsidy no greater than that given to roads per seat-mile traveled.

Do you have any statistics for that? I am really interested what pov the makers of this study have.
do they also regard the real vehicle operational costs? (repairs/tolls/taxes, etc)
And there is also the factor of costs which public transportation helps to avoid: Money lost through pollution and traffic jams (time, money and goods get wasted by jams)

Originally Posted by Ducimus

The end result is the oil companies price gouging, whenever someone sneezes in the middle east, all the more painful.

And yeah, given their profits, i see no justification for the prices other then pure corporate GREED. I mean seriously, are they using Libya as their excuse this time? I'm not "buying" that excuse, not for one freaking minute.

Hey, this is only "fair"! When you had the storms in the Gulf of Mexico, our prices here went up too - though we import only a few drops of the oil which is produced there.
Germany gets about 10% of its oil from Libya, I wonder how much you get from there, I bet it's much less.

[Platapus]

Perhaps I can get a good price for the Prius I am selling.

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

More then a normal state. Whatever your paying, its 10 cents more in california, at the very least. The reasons because the smog gestapo here demands a cleaner formula.

The end result is the oil companies price gouging, whenever someone sneezes in the middle east, all the more painful.

And yeah, given their profits, i see no justification for the prices other then pure corporate GREED. I mean seriously, are they using Libya as their excuse this time? I'm not "buying" that excuse, not for one freaking minute.

Wait until it reaches $5 a gallon by summer. The oil corps are loving this.

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Armistead

Wait until it reaches $5 a gallon by summer. The oil corps are loving this.

You know, i really wish the impeding crash would just happen already, cause at least then i would not be wondering about the future anymore with this sense of impending doom. At least that's the impression I have, that the economy is just sitting there, dangeling by a thin thread, and all it takes is a good gust of wind to send it all crashing down. I don't think its a question of If, but when. High cost of gas could do that. That goes up, and it will send everything else spiraling out of control until the "Great Recession" turns into the "Great Depression version 2.0".