Muslim Cleric Plans White House Protest in Attempt to Spread Sharia Law in America

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

And what will it take for people like you to realize that eliminating constitutional rights for certain segments of the population results in the same sort of damage to American democracy that Sharia law poses?



Polemics. We're talking about denying the rights of people to run for and hold office.



Except Muslims.



I didn't say you did.



Yes, it would be unconstitutional, but that is exactly what you have been saying, and it is why we are having this argument right now.



That's not what you said before. If it was, I would have left you alone. Instead, you said that we should not have anyone in office who subscribes to the Islamic faith. Not that we should not vote for them, but that the should not be permitted to run.

Okay, I was not saying in the OP we should actually pass any laws to prevent muslims from obtaining office, nominations to certain positions etc, because that would be unconstitutional.I was saying that it would be a terrible thing to have them in any position of power so we should do what we can via legal means to prevent it, I did not state that but I did not say we should pass a law to prevent it either, so assumed someone reading would understand I was not talking legislation etc.There are constitutional methods such as making sure Senators do no confirm one if nominated to SCOTUS, not voting for muslim candidates etc. Absolutely constitutional and nothing wrong with preventing it via those means.Not a race thing etc but it's because someone who holds beliefs that opposite of our constitution has no place in the governance of our society.They can live here, pray to their own special invisible man in the sky five times a day etc but they in no way should ever hold power over me or my fellow citizens.They want sharia etc, they need to move elsewhere.

I would like to say children of illegal immigrants born here are not citizens but according to the constitution as is, they are.I actually ended up defending birthright citizenship of illegal immigrant's children a few weeks back because I set my own opinion aside and argued on the side of the constitution against a colleague who was trying to twist the text in an intellectually dishonest manner.Hopefully we can amend the constitution sometime to stop this but until then, they are citizens if born here.I don't think muslims should be eligible to hold public office in the US but my opinion does not ovveride the constitution, no one's should.Get what I am saying? I was explaining why they should not be in any power when asked why it would be a bad thing, that is all.

[breadcatcher101]

I wouldn't have a problem banning muslims from America period.

We allow freedom of worship, even no worship at all if you prefer, but to allow a religion that has no tolorance of others not of their faith to gain a foothold simply has no logic.

We have a welcome mat at our front door but that doesn't mean I want Charlie Manson walking in.

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by breadcatcher101

I wouldn't have a problem banning muslims from America period.

We allow freedom of worship, even no worship at all if you prefer, but to allow a religion that has no tolorance of others not of their faith to gain a foothold simply has no logic.

Yes, ban those non-tolerant types.

[krashkart]

I have this feeling that Sharia law in the US would prove difficult to enforce, even if somehow it made it's way into our laws. But I'll err on the side of caution - it could happen. What might be good for the system is a touch of sane xenophobia somewhere in office, to help counterbalance the current practice of brown-nosing we've seen. I'm not talking like a full-blown bug-eyed Islamophobe, just a handful of people who can help keep things in check so that the government doesn't go overboard with wearing its heart on its sleeve. Mr. Nice Guy is a good thing to be, but there are plenty of Not-So-Nice Guys out there that want to give us all a very close shave (wink wink).

Meanwhile, it would be a very good thing for the West to cut its losses and leave the Arab world alone so that it can flourish on its own, without our incessant meddling. We better figure out how to solve our energy problems without screwing over an entire people and their way of life. They have every right to hate us. Time to evolve from that selfish nonsense.

This cleric, for whatever he is worth, can go straight back to his country of origin and practice his strange ways there. But he got his point across to me at least: Force your ways upon us, and we will return the favor. You do not like our way? Tough. That's what I draw from it.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Yes, ban those non-tolerant types.

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by Tchocky

Yes, ban those non-tolerant types.

Not always so easy to do so

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by breadcatcher101

I wouldn't have a problem banning muslims from America period.

We allow freedom of worship, even no worship at all if you prefer, but to allow a religion that has no tolorance of others not of their faith to gain a foothold simply has no logic.

We have a welcome mat at our front door but that doesn't mean I want Charlie Manson walking in.

I agree with you on islam, but it would unconstitutional to ban a religion, so have to side with the constitution.Slippery slope also, ban one religion, 50 years later the shoe could be on the other foot, next thing you know some wacked out lib is pushing to ban christianity etc after something happens.