[REL] Real Fleet Boat 2.0

[JREX53]

TorpX,

It's going to take me a week or so to get a version of SAP compatible with RSRDC and RFB 2.0. I have 20+ ships to test to get a compatible version. Will start in the next day or so.

[NoJoe]

I just started playing around with RFB, and I don't understand something:

The RFB manual states that the top of the funnel should be used for stadimeter measurements on warships. But using the height value listed in the recognition manual you get incorrect ranges (for example, the manual states the Mogami cruiser height as 100-something feet, while the top of the funnel is only 65 or so). Are we supposed to just use the top of the highest mast, despite what the manual and the tooltip says?

I've searched through this thread and found that this question has been asked a couple times, but not answered.

Thanks,
--NoJoe

[NoJoe]

Originally Posted by NoJoe

I just started playing around with RFB, and I don't understand something:

The RFB manual states that the top of the funnel should be used for stadimeter measurements on warships. But using the height value listed in the recognition manual you get incorrect ranges (for example, the manual states the Mogami cruiser height as 100-something feet, while the top of the funnel is only 65 or so). Are we supposed to just use the top of the highest mast, despite what the manual and the tooltip says?

I've searched through this thread and found that this question has been asked a couple times, but not answered.

Thanks,
--NoJoe

Anyone have any ideas? Does RFB do this for you guys too, or did I mess something up in the install?

I'm using RFB 2.0 with the patch, and RSRD.

Thanks,
--NoJoe

[TorpX]

In RFB, you are supposed to use the top of the funnel for (most) warships, the flight deck for carriers, and mast for merchants. But, as you found out, the rec manual values don't agree with the in-game values.

I have been using the rec manual values, as is. My understanding is that CapnScurvy is working on this and related matters (periscope/TBT views).

[NoJoe]

Ahhh, okey doke! It sounds like for the time being I'll just use the rec manual values as a rough guide, and estimate from there. Heck, that's more historically accurate anyway!

Thanks for the reply
--NoJoe

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by NoJoe

I just started playing around with RFB, and I don't understand something:

The RFB manual states that the top of the funnel should be used for stadimeter measurements on warships. But using the height value listed in the recognition manual you get incorrect ranges (for example, the manual states the Mogami cruiser height as 100-something feet, while the top of the funnel is only 65 or so). Are we supposed to just use the top of the highest mast, despite what the manual and the tooltip says?

I've searched through this thread and found that this question has been asked a couple times, but not answered.

Thanks,
--NoJoe

there seems to be contradictory answers/info.

In the "torpedo school" mission, the correct range to the Mogami is calculated the top of the mast height and not from the funnel.

However, in my current RFB/RSRDC campaign, the RFB recommended settings appear to be the correct ones. I tracked a IJN destroyer and the correct range was calculated from the top of the funnel.

I also understand there is a certain amount of fudging in the RFB numbers to reflect real life uncertainty. A design decision some (including me) question, but something you have to live with if you want to use RFB.

I would suggest following the RFB recommended method, but always keep an eye on the size of the ship in the scope. After a while, you will get a "feel" on whether the range you get makes sense or not.

[LukeFF]

All the mast and funnel heights are taken from the real-world data found in the various USN recognition manuals, be they dead-on accurate or not. In essence, you have the same sort of data the real-world captains had.

Hello

I get a crash to desktop everytime I click "American Campaign" when "RFB_2.0_Patch_23April2010" is installed, but works fine if I only install RFB_2.0

Do you know why?

Thanks in advance and sorry for my bad english

[CPatrick]

I'm returning to SH4 after a long absence. I'm trying to apply RFB 2.0 and its latest patch, to a new U.S. campaign, but I don't think that the mod is taking effect.

Should RFB enable a Hogan's Alley and extra Coning Tower slots on a Porpoise class sub?

If so, I'm not seeing them. I'm using JSGME, installed into the root of my SH4 directory.

Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!

[TorpX]

Originally Posted by Strawberry

Hello

I get a crash to desktop everytime I click "American Campaign" when "RFB_2.0_Patch_23April2010" is installed, but works fine if I only install RFB_2.0

Do you know why?

Thanks in advance and sorry for my bad english

Do you have SH4 v1.5? Most of the recent mods/ versions require v1.5.

I'm returning to SH4 after a long absence. I'm trying to apply RFB 2.0 and its latest patch, to a new U.S. campaign, but I don't think that the mod is taking effect.

Should RFB enable a Hogan's Alley and extra Coning Tower slots on a Porpoise class sub?

Yes, you should have a Hogan's alley on any sub.

I think it is necessary to start a new career when you enable a mega-mod like RFB. I'm not a modder, so I can't recite the details of why, but am pretty sure that's the bottom line.

*edit*
I may have misread your post. If you started a new career, you should see differences in the game.
If you don't see any at all, check to see if there are duplicate folders in your mod install. This is the most common problem in mod installs.

[Sledgehammer427]

lets not forget that any currently downloaded version of RFB should have all the patches added in.

the patches downloadable on the side are for those who already have RFB, who only need the patch so they don't have to dl the whole mod all over again

AFAIK thats how the RFB team does things