Graphic problems and crashes

Pintea · 01-24-11, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

Hi,
installed the sim two times, run the patched 1.2 version with the "TDW MegaMod", "Grossdeutscher Rundfunk" and Trevally's "get range and speed mod".
The sim crashes often, mostly at high time compression or near the harbour, but not always - sometimes it just happens out of the blue.
Running the sim on an Asus P5K board, e8400 dual core (2x3GHz), 4Gb Ram, and an Nvidia 9800GT with 1Gb; with Win 7 ultimate 32 bit.
Anyone else have this ? Or anything someone could do about it ?

Thanks and greetings,
Catfish

Read this and enable the 3GB switch (it's the same problem on Windows7 32 bit)
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...ght=3gb+switch

I'm more than sure it's (part of) the problem, especially since it happens near harbors.

Zedi · 01-24-11, 07:02 AM

Quoting you from that topic:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pintea

First of all, the patch "readme" is wrong.
The 3GB switch won't do anything performance-wise. It will just avoid errors and crashes when SH5 runs out of "memory" (addressing space actually).
And it will only matter for 32 bit systems.

Even though you only have 2GB RAM, the 3GB switch refers to _virtual memory_, not physical memory. So you can enable the 3GB switch even with 1 GB of RAM, it will help.

If you have windows vista/7, the more video RAM you have, the more your harbors will disappear ! (as paradoxical as it can be....)
That's because the video card memory uses the same 2GB of virtual memory as the game uses, so you will have less memory for the game.

As a conclusion, this will only avoid errors/crashes, and only works on 32bit systems (with more positive impact for vista/win7 uses).

I have this problem a lot, harbor that disappear then the UI start to look exactly like it shown in the first post followed soon by a crash.

Now the question is, which option is better.. to mess with the OS ini file or do what TDW sugest here ?

Catfish · 01-24-11, 08:28 AM

Hello,
well this is better help than "format your harddrive and re-install" lol

Ok, i have set the Win32 parameters to use more than 2 Gb via command line, and edited the SH5.exe with the Explorer suite mentined by TDW, to make the sim make use of that - will try it out and report back.

Thanks and greetings,
Catfish

Pintea · 01-24-11, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magnum

I have this problem a lot, harbor that disappear then the UI start to look exactly like it shown in the first post followed soon by a crash.

Now the question is, which option is better.. to mess with the OS ini file or do what TDW sugest here ?

The .ini file enables the 3gb switch for all executables, whereas TDW's solution only applies to SH5.exe, therefore TDW's solution is better (haven't tested it though, I wish I would have known about it a longer time ago).

Catfish · 01-25-11, 10:08 AM

Hello TDW, Pintea and those others who helped -

i am running the sim now without stuttering, and without CTDs.

THANKS !

I just did what TDW had proposed, and what Pintea mentioned:
Download the "Explorer Suite", open the SH5.exe file (after having made a backup) and found that the sim file was already set to use more than 2 Gb - so i just closed it without changing.

Next i typed those commands in the command line, so that Win 7 32 bit would allow the use of 3 Gb generally, and restarted just to make sure.

Started the sim, saved, loaded, played for 6+ hours without any CTD, all the time alt-tabbing in and out of the sim to open documents or surf the web, only to go back to the running SH5 without problem.

There is one small problem which i had before - the small "notepad" or what's it called at the lower right vanishes after some time, and i can only bring up the big messages window after this to read answers or ackonwledged orders - but nothing to do with the CTD or anything.

Much thanks and greetings,
Catfish

P.S. also installed that antilag thingie mentioned by TDW - also helped against lagging-
P.P.S the "white-out" rectangles on the menu bars as shown in the screenshot in post #1 are also a thing of the past.

TheDarkWraith · 01-25-11, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

There is one small problem which i had before - the small "notepad" or what's it called at the lower right vanishes after some time, and i can only bring up the big messages window after this to read answers or ackonwledged orders - but nothing to do with the CTD or anything.

can you show screenshots of this small 'notepad' and big messages window? What makes it vanish?

Catfish · 01-25-11, 12:52 PM

Hello TDW,
first thanks

, second if you look at my screenshot in the first post, you see the small report box/window/notepad/whatever at the right bottom (right lower edge) of the screen, where your orders are usually repeated or achnowledged, where depth under keel is reported after asking the navigator etc. ..

You can make this window as big as you wish, and switch from two lines (as you see in the screenshot) to more, clicking the small round button at the right of this message window. (where now is that tiny white rectangle).

You can also open this report window by clicking on one of the buttons at the upper right vertical menu list, only then it appears at the left, and is much bigger. It is not the radio telegram report, but this other list button. The text in it is the same as in the small window bottom right, but it is bigger. This bigger window will still work, when the smaller one has vanished, but it is not convenient to let it on since it blocks half the screen.
This said small rightmost bottom window vanishes by itself after some time, usually around an hour or so after starting the sim. What is strange is that when you go to higher time compression it appears and gives information, but going back to 1x time, it is gone.
Hope you know what i mean ..

I somehow am not sure whether this has anything to do with the Opus Magnum mod, just wanted to know if someone else gets that, and if there is a remedy ..

EDIT: Seems to happen after a torpedo attack, when the small officer icon appears and this range and AOB window, the small report window is then gone and will not appear again, after an attack. This might also be related to the original SH5, or to Trevally's range and speed mod - but i'm only guessing. I never played the vanilla game long enough for comparisons.

Thanks and greetings,
Catfish

Zedi · 01-25-11, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Catfish

Hello TDW, Pintea and those others who helped -

i am running the sim now without stuttering, and without CTDs.

THANKS !

I just did what TDW had proposed, and what Pintea mentioned:
Download the "Explorer Suite", open the SH5.exe file (after having made a backup) and found that the sim file was already set to use more than 2 Gb - so i just closed it without changing.

Next i typed those commands in the command line, so that Win 7 32 bit would allow the use of 3 Gb generally, and restarted just to make sure.

Started the sim, saved, loaded, played for 6+ hours without any CTD, all the time alt-tabbing in and out of the sim to open documents or surf the web, only to go back to the running SH5 without problem.
...

Are you experience any problem with your rig after these changes? Like framedrop in other games, crashing applications nor movies not playing well?

Catfish · 01-25-11, 04:29 PM

Hello Magnum,

only play "Dangerous Waters" two other games (flight sims) at the moment, but seldomly: "Over Flanders Fields" and "Rise of Flight", both aviation WW1 sims. But have only played "OFF" since, and it runs as fluently as ever. Will try out DW and RoF.

I have some serious stuttering in RoF since i changed to Win 7 32 bit, from Win XP - on the same machine ! My PC had a better performance with XP, with the same hardware configuration !

I will try this with RoF as well, maybe try to open the "Rof.exe" file with the FF explorer, and see whether the switch is set to > 2 Gb there. Maybe there is a performance gain in RoF now that i entered the string into the command line. Will test this and report back here.
(See post #1 for my hardware configuration)

Greetings,
Catfish

P.S. No crashes with other software experienced, videos run perfectly (i just used the PC for watching some TV repetitions, smooth as ever)
P.P.S. There are some bugs video memory-wise and restrictions that strangle hardware performance in Win 7, i am really astonished that so few people know, or experienced this.

Trevally. · 01-25-11, 05:49 PM

Hi Catfish

With the "Range and AOB Finder" or " TDC Checker", you should not leave them running.
They are both on a loop (waiting for the next button to be clicked) and if you click next when not aiming at a ship in your scope it could crash so please close if you are not checking something.

You should click follow target before using to prevent this and to ensure the script is checking the correct ship.

You might have noticed that at time when you click "follow tagert" that the scope jumps to a target you had been lock on too. This is the same with the TDC checker etc. Clicking "follow target" will ensure you are testing the correct ship.

01-25-11, 10:08 AM	#5
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,772 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Hello TDW, Pintea and those others who helped - i am running the sim now without stuttering, and without CTDs. THANKS ! I just did what TDW had proposed, and what Pintea mentioned: Download the "Explorer Suite", open the SH5.exe file (after having made a backup) and found that the sim file was already set to use more than 2 Gb - so i just closed it without changing. Next i typed those commands in the command line, so that Win 7 32 bit would allow the use of 3 Gb generally, and restarted just to make sure. Started the sim, saved, loaded, played for 6+ hours without any CTD, all the time alt-tabbing in and out of the sim to open documents or surf the web, only to go back to the running SH5 without problem. There is one small problem which i had before - the small "notepad" or what's it called at the lower right vanishes after some time, and i can only bring up the big messages window after this to read answers or ackonwledged orders - but nothing to do with the CTD or anything. Much thanks and greetings, Catfish P.S. also installed that antilag thingie mentioned by TDW - also helped against lagging- P.P.S the "white-out" rectangles on the menu bars as shown in the screenshot in post #1 are also a thing of the past. Last edited by Catfish; 01-25-11 at 04:30 PM.

01-25-11, 12:52 PM	#7
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,772 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Hello TDW, first thanks , second if you look at my screenshot in the first post, you see the small report box/window/notepad/whatever at the right bottom (right lower edge) of the screen, where your orders are usually repeated or achnowledged, where depth under keel is reported after asking the navigator etc. .. You can make this window as big as you wish, and switch from two lines (as you see in the screenshot) to more, clicking the small round button at the right of this message window. (where now is that tiny white rectangle). You can also open this report window by clicking on one of the buttons at the upper right vertical menu list, only then it appears at the left, and is much bigger. It is not the radio telegram report, but this other list button. The text in it is the same as in the small window bottom right, but it is bigger. This bigger window will still work, when the smaller one has vanished, but it is not convenient to let it on since it blocks half the screen. This said small rightmost bottom window vanishes by itself after some time, usually around an hour or so after starting the sim. What is strange is that when you go to higher time compression it appears and gives information, but going back to 1x time, it is gone. Hope you know what i mean .. I somehow am not sure whether this has anything to do with the Opus Magnum mod, just wanted to know if someone else gets that, and if there is a remedy .. EDIT: Seems to happen after a torpedo attack, when the small officer icon appears and this range and AOB window, the small report window is then gone and will not appear again, after an attack. This might also be related to the original SH5, or to Trevally's range and speed mod - but i'm only guessing. I never played the vanilla game long enough for comparisons. Thanks and greetings, Catfish Last edited by Catfish; 01-25-11 at 01:27 PM.

01-25-11, 05:49 PM	#10
Trevally. Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: AN1536 (Orkney) Posts: 5,451 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 28	Hi Catfish With the "Range and AOB Finder" or " TDC Checker", you should not leave them running. They are both on a loop (waiting for the next button to be clicked) and if you click next when not aiming at a ship in your scope it could crash so please close if you are not checking something. You should click follow target before using to prevent this and to ensure the script is checking the correct ship. You might have noticed that at time when you click "follow tagert" that the scope jumps to a target you had been lock on too. This is the same with the TDC checker etc. Clicking "follow target" will ensure you are testing the correct ship. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Trevally Mods for SH5

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01-24-11, 08:28 AM	#3
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,772 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Hello, well this is better help than "format your harddrive and re-install" lol Ok, i have set the Win32 parameters to use more than 2 Gb via command line, and edited the SH5.exe with the Explorer suite mentined by TDW, to make the sim make use of that - will try it out and report back. Thanks and greetings, Catfish

01-25-11, 04:29 PM	#9
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,772 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Hello Magnum, only play "Dangerous Waters" two other games (flight sims) at the moment, but seldomly: "Over Flanders Fields" and "Rise of Flight", both aviation WW1 sims. But have only played "OFF" since, and it runs as fluently as ever. Will try out DW and RoF. I have some serious stuttering in RoF since i changed to Win 7 32 bit, from Win XP - on the same machine ! My PC had a better performance with XP, with the same hardware configuration ! I will try this with RoF as well, maybe try to open the "Rof.exe" file with the FF explorer, and see whether the switch is set to > 2 Gb there. Maybe there is a performance gain in RoF now that i entered the string into the command line. Will test this and report back here. (See post #1 for my hardware configuration) Greetings, Catfish P.S. No crashes with other software experienced, videos run perfectly (i just used the PC for watching some TV repetitions, smooth as ever) P.P.S. There are some bugs video memory-wise and restrictions that strangle hardware performance in Win 7, i am really astonished that so few people know, or experienced this.