Russian Defense Minister Causes Uproar With Call to Replace Famed AK-47

Oberon · 01-22-11, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bookworm_020

More likely a demand for better kickbacks!

Touché

CCIP · 01-22-11, 04:44 PM

That, and distracting from the real issues and need for reforms in the Russian Army. All this hand-waving about weaponry allows them to drag their feet on professionalizing the army and improving the conditions for soldiers.

Stealth Hunter · 01-22-11, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by The Article

Built and designed in Russia during World War II, the AK-47 is considered the first true assault rifle.

Not quite. The AK47's final version was not constructed until 1946, at which point it entered its final trials. A finishing modification to the ejection system was made in 1947 to improve the overall reliability of the weapon, and it was distributed for testing. It was not registered in service until 1949, either.

If you want the first "true" assault rifle, look to the Germans, not the Russians, for the Sturmgewehr 44.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmgewehr_44

Kazuaki Shimazaki II · 01-24-11, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

That, and distracting from the real issues and need for reforms in the Russian Army. All this hand-waving about weaponry allows them to drag their feet on professionalizing the army and improving the conditions for soldiers.

To be fair, it is sometimes hard to see exactly what they should do.

antikristuseke · 01-24-11, 06:44 AM

I'm incredibly sleepy and may have overlooked it, but has this thing been mentioned already?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN-94

Why look abroad when a good replacement is close by. Even though this statement has little to do with reality, by the politician that is.

TLAM Strike · 01-24-11, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by antikristuseke

I'm incredibly sleepy and may have overlooked it, but has this thing been mentioned already?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN-94

Why look abroad when a good replacement is close by. Even though this statement has little to do with reality, by the politician that is.

Yea they started work on a new rifle series in the 1980s, only the special forces and counter terrorist guys got them. Which is a shame they seemed like nice rifles.

XabbaRus · 01-24-11, 01:46 PM

According to wikipedia it is still in production going by the date.

The thing is Russia is still hung up on legacy. So saying ditch a Kalashnikov is like saying to the French, ditch dassault.

I think it is a combination of ass kicking and more bribes.

I don't get it, I'm suprised however that Russia did get the Mistral. Rumour has it they want the C4I stuff too.

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XabbaRus Navy Seal Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 5,330 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	According to wikipedia it is still in production going by the date. The thing is Russia is still hung up on legacy. So saying ditch a Kalashnikov is like saying to the French, ditch dassault. I think it is a combination of ass kicking and more bribes. I don't get it, I'm suprised however that Russia did get the Mistral. Rumour has it they want the C4I stuff too. __________________

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01-24-11, 06:44 AM	#5
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I'm incredibly sleepy and may have overlooked it, but has this thing been mentioned already? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN-94 Why look abroad when a good replacement is close by. Even though this statement has little to do with reality, by the politician that is.