Arizona Congresswoman Shot in the Head at Public Event

Gerald · 01-13-11, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Third Man

It wasn't a joke. Obama made it a political rally. Lies about Congresswoman Giffords and all.

You cannot trust this man's words beyond the applause.

As said, Obama is LITERALLY on Congress Woman Gifford, the lies he told, I'd love to hear from you what words he used

01-13-11, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendor

As said, Obama is LITERALLY on Congress Woman Gifford, the lies he told, I'd love to hear from you what words he used

Opened her eyes for the first time Not the truth...Obam caught in another lie. You have to wonder why he digresses into an obvious dis- proven statement?

Giffords is in a drug-induced coma in intensive care. Doctors frequently awaken her to check her responsiveness, and she could open her eyes and respond to simple commands Sunday - an encouraging sign, said Rhee said.

Posted Jan 9, 2011, 12:40 pm
http://www.tucsonsentinel.com/local/...ords_condition

01-13-11, 05:18 PM

Oh dear oh dear third man, you are digging yourself into a big hole.
Can you spot the obvious mistake you have made in your silly attempt at proving the "lies"?
Its all to do with the statements of the two doctors. You know, the doctors whose statements you obviously didn't read

01-13-11, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Oh dear oh dear third man, you are digging yourself into a big hole.
Can you spot the obvious mistake you have made in your silly attempt at proving the "lies"?
Its all to do with the statements of the two doctors. You know, the doctors whose statements you obviously didn't read

Not that it makes a difference at this point, since the Obama lie has been exposed, but you can continue the lie if you wish.

Gerald · 01-13-11, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Third Man

Opened her eyes for the first time Not the truth...Obam caught in another lie. You have to wonder why he digresses into an obvious dis- proven statement?

Giffords is in a drug-induced coma in intensive care. Doctors frequently awaken her to check her responsiveness, and she could open her eyes and respond to simple commands Sunday - an encouraging sign, said Rhee said.

Posted Jan 9, 2011, 12:40 pm
http://www.tucsonsentinel.com/local/...ords_condition

Your post is based Jan 9, after it has happened a bit more,here is link for today,Doctors say Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords is moving both of her legs, her arms and has opened her eyes. With a crowd of friends and family around her bed, Giffords opened..

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/0...-surroundings/

Note: Update record, Thu, 13 Jan 2011

01-13-11, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendor

Your post is based Jan 9, after it has happened a bit more,here is link for today,Doctors say Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords is moving both of her legs, her arms and has opened her eyes. With a crowd of friends and family around her bed, Giffords opened..

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/0...-surroundings/

Note: Update record, Thu, 13 Jan 2011

Dr. Rhea said she opened her eyes on Jan 9. Not on the day, Jan 12 that the liar Obama said she opened them for the first time. That is the point....Obama is a liar.

01-13-11, 05:32 PM

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Not that it makes a difference at this point, since the Obama lie has been exposed, but you can continue the lie if you wish.

Your own post with its links shows you to be talking total crap, its all there in the words of the doctors themselves.

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Dr. Rhea said she opened her eyes on Jan 9. Not on the day, Jan 12 that the liar Obama said she opened them for the first time. That is the point....Obama is a liar.

What did the doctor say about the 12th? Its all there in your "proof" which proved yourself wrong
So all you "exposed" is either your inability to read or your blindness.

But just for you to enjoy

some good old auslanders on about the crazy crap, pure nonsense and hate filled extremism spouted by those on the right.

01-13-11, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribesman

Your own post with its links shows you to be talking total crap, its all there in the words of the doctors themselves.

What did the doctor say about the 12th? Its all there in your "proof" which proved yourself wrong
So all you "exposed" is either your inability to read or your blindness.

But just for you to enjoy

some good old auslanders on about the crazy crap, pure nonsense and hate filled extremism spouted by those on the right.

Nothing on the 12th because it was a non-issue for the doctor. Obama claimed it was her first eye opening in his political rally of 12 January. It was a lie.

Do you have trouble with dates? Or just using a post and cover strategy?

01-13-11, 05:54 PM

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Nothing on the 12th because it was a non-issue for the doctor.

You really are blind.

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"This is totally different," said Lemole.

What was totally different?
oh yeah, opening her eyes.
but hey maybe its just one doctor talking about that day when you think it was a non issue for the doctors and they didn't say anything
I wonder what Dr Rhee said.

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As you heard from the president yesterday, it is true

Damn them doctors for showing you to be a liar third man

CaptainHaplo · 01-13-11, 08:13 PM

TTM - you gotta stop feeding tribesman - he lives to troll...

In case anyone else however was struggling - it was reported on October 9 that "she could open her eyes and respond to simple commands Sunday - an encouraging sign, said Rhee said."

Obamain his speech stated:
I have just come from the University Medical Center, just a mile from here, where our friend Gabby courageously fights to recover even as we speak. And I want to tell you -- her husband Mark is here and he allows me to share this with you -- right after we went to visit, a few minutes after we left her room and some of her colleagues in Congress were in the room, Gabby opened her eyes for the first time. (Applause.) Gabby opened her eyes for the first time. (Applause.)

This was not the "first time", according to her doctors she had been able to do for at least 3 days... And his announcement was made to a "cheering throng" of college students who turned a memorial into slain victims into a political rally.

Can you say that this was just a "coincidental mis-statement" by the President? Or are we dealing with a man who has gotten so off track that he believes he does rate the "greek temple" in which his adoring minions worshipped him as a god upon winning the presidency?

If you can - watch the video of the speech - watch his pauses and how he looks "over and beyond" the crowd - how he pauses and waits as he basks in the cheers with a solemn mein that indicates it is but what is due to him... Pay attention to how his body language is specifically attuned, and then go watch a speech by Adolph Hitler - another grand orator....

Now - I am not saying he is hitler - I am saying that his mannerism - and his penchant for sensationalism (at the cost of the truth) are reminicent of examples we have in history.

But lets not finish there - look at the text of his speech - a good orator can say things and people miss them - caught up in the moment.....

"Bad things happen, and we have to guard against simple explanations in the aftermath." ahh - the shooter bing a freaking nutcase is too simple of an answer - there must be more to it!

"For the truth is none of us can know exactly what triggered this vicious attack. None of us can know with any certainty what might have stopped these shots from being fired, or what thoughts lurked in the inner recesses of a violent man’s mind. Yes, we have to examine all the facts behind this tragedy. We cannot and will not be passive in the face of such violence"

We can't know what your thinking - so we have to act to make sure you or someone else isn't going to do the same things!

"We should be willing to challenge old assumptions in order to lessen the prospects of such violence in the future." How can we stop violence - I know - someone put forward a new gun control bill! (There is one due to be put forward next week now BTW....)

"let’s use this occasion to expand our moral imaginations" - moral imaginations? What the devil are those? Now "expand our moral" (s) I could understand - since the guy talking is pushing socialized medicine, gays in the military - and soon enough - gay marriage..... Expand em to where you don't have any why don'tcha....

"We may ask ourselves if we’ve shown enough kindness and generosity and compassion to the people in our lives. Perhaps we question whether we're doing right by our children, or our community, whether our priorities are in order" - support my social programs - screw the deficit - the kids WANT to live in debt enforced servitude to the government....

"We recognize our own mortality, and we are reminded that in the fleeting time we have on this Earth, what matters is not wealth, or status, or power, or fame -– but rather, how well we have loved -- (applause)-- and what small part we have played in making the lives of other people better. (Applause.)" Take from the rich - their money doesn't matter - redistribute wealth so we can all "feel better about ourselves"....

The times, they are a changing. Violence is not an acceptable answer at this time, but while the media fawns over his "best speech EVAH!!!!" - we will see how he and his allies continue to act.. Never forget - this is the administration that stated that you should never let a crisis go to waste.....

Brace yourself America.

mookiemookie · 01-13-11, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Now - I am not saying he is hitler - I am saying that his mannerism - and his penchant for sensationalism (at the cost of the truth) are reminicent of examples we have in history.

"I'm not saying he's Hitler, but his mannerisms are reminiscent of Hitler."

Tchocky · 01-13-11, 08:19 PM

A singular interpretation, CH.

01-13-11, 08:36 PM

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In case anyone else however was struggling - it was reported on October 9 that "she could open her eyes and respond to simple commands Sunday - an encouraging sign, said Rhee said."

In case anyone was struggling just look at Dr Rhee and Dr Lemole in the article which links off the one Third man posted.
So then false preacher is it just that you have as many problem understanding a doctors words as you have problems with the bible?

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"I was there when she was surrounded by her friends from the Congress and Senate," Lemole said.
"We think it was that combination of the unexpected and the familiar" that triggered Giffords' eye opening, he said.
The presence of her family and the new experience of visits from colleague and the president caused the eye opening, he said.

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This was not the "first time",

Both doctors point out that it was the first time, live with it.

CaptainHaplo · 01-13-11, 08:41 PM

Mookie - I said examples - plural not singular. His oratory has the most in common stylistically with Adolph - who everyone can agree was a bit of a megalomaniac. You can look at Stalin, Mussilini and a few others who also presented in much the same way. Also - look at examples as Thatcher, Reagen, etc - and you see the same skill, but with a different focus. Its actually telling - some look "over the people to the future" - while others look AT the people and discuss building the future WITH THEM - not using them to simply do the job.

Tchocky - yes it is a singular interpretation. However, when the president is also the leader of his party - and his party speaks and acts in ways that demonstrate their continued goal - such as the impending gun legislation - is to further bind the rights of the people instead of solving the problems that contributed (such as state and federal governmental interference into what WAS a working mental health system at one time). A speech is all well and good - but to choose to dismiss the history - and impending acts of, the speaker and those his politics represent - is to be intentionally blind to the reality of the day.

I don't think Obama is "evil". I don't think he is the AntiChrist. But I do believe that if you actually look at what he says - in light of his history of actions and the actions of those with whom he politically has joined himself, you cannot dismiss continued actions that we see happening even after such tragedy.

Oh - and don't forget to sign up for your internet ID - don't worry - Big Brother isn't going to be watching........

tater · 01-13-11, 08:08 PM

My only real problem with Obama's speech was that while the bit about "tone" was OK, having it at the memorial connects it to the crime. It would have been better to explicitly mention that tone has wrongfully come up, and while it is a good discussion for the nation to have, it is unrelated.

Mentioning tone at all was in fact giving it credence that it does not deserve.

01-13-11, 08:13 PM	#10
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	TTM - you gotta stop feeding tribesman - he lives to troll... In case anyone else however was struggling - it was reported on October 9 that "she could open her eyes and respond to simple commands Sunday - an encouraging sign, said Rhee said." Obamain his speech stated: I have just come from the University Medical Center, just a mile from here, where our friend Gabby courageously fights to recover even as we speak. And I want to tell you -- her husband Mark is here and he allows me to share this with you -- right after we went to visit, a few minutes after we left her room and some of her colleagues in Congress were in the room, Gabby opened her eyes for the first time. (Applause.) Gabby opened her eyes for the first time. (Applause.) This was not the "first time", according to her doctors she had been able to do for at least 3 days... And his announcement was made to a "cheering throng" of college students who turned a memorial into slain victims into a political rally. Can you say that this was just a "coincidental mis-statement" by the President? Or are we dealing with a man who has gotten so off track that he believes he does rate the "greek temple" in which his adoring minions worshipped him as a god upon winning the presidency? If you can - watch the video of the speech - watch his pauses and how he looks "over and beyond" the crowd - how he pauses and waits as he basks in the cheers with a solemn mein that indicates it is but what is due to him... Pay attention to how his body language is specifically attuned, and then go watch a speech by Adolph Hitler - another grand orator.... Now - I am not saying he is hitler - I am saying that his mannerism - and his penchant for sensationalism (at the cost of the truth) are reminicent of examples we have in history. But lets not finish there - look at the text of his speech - a good orator can say things and people miss them - caught up in the moment..... "Bad things happen, and we have to guard against simple explanations in the aftermath." ahh - the shooter bing a freaking nutcase is too simple of an answer - there must be more to it! "For the truth is none of us can know exactly what triggered this vicious attack. None of us can know with any certainty what might have stopped these shots from being fired, or what thoughts lurked in the inner recesses of a violent man’s mind. Yes, we have to examine all the facts behind this tragedy. We cannot and will not be passive in the face of such violence" We can't know what your thinking - so we have to act to make sure you or someone else isn't going to do the same things! "We should be willing to challenge old assumptions in order to lessen the prospects of such violence in the future." How can we stop violence - I know - someone put forward a new gun control bill! (There is one due to be put forward next week now BTW....) "let’s use this occasion to expand our moral imaginations" - moral imaginations? What the devil are those? Now "expand our moral" (s) I could understand - since the guy talking is pushing socialized medicine, gays in the military - and soon enough - gay marriage..... Expand em to where you don't have any why don'tcha.... "We may ask ourselves if we’ve shown enough kindness and generosity and compassion to the people in our lives. Perhaps we question whether we're doing right by our children, or our community, whether our priorities are in order" - support my social programs - screw the deficit - the kids WANT to live in debt enforced servitude to the government.... "We recognize our own mortality, and we are reminded that in the fleeting time we have on this Earth, what matters is not wealth, or status, or power, or fame -– but rather, how well we have loved -- (applause)-- and what small part we have played in making the lives of other people better. (Applause.)" Take from the rich - their money doesn't matter - redistribute wealth so we can all "feel better about ourselves".... The times, they are a changing. Violence is not an acceptable answer at this time, but while the media fawns over his "best speech EVAH!!!!" - we will see how he and his allies continue to act.. Never forget - this is the administration that stated that you should never let a crisis go to waste..... Brace yourself America. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

01-13-11, 08:19 PM	#12
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	A singular interpretation, CH. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

01-13-11, 08:41 PM	#14
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Mookie - I said examples - plural not singular. His oratory has the most in common stylistically with Adolph - who everyone can agree was a bit of a megalomaniac. You can look at Stalin, Mussilini and a few others who also presented in much the same way. Also - look at examples as Thatcher, Reagen, etc - and you see the same skill, but with a different focus. Its actually telling - some look "over the people to the future" - while others look AT the people and discuss building the future WITH THEM - not using them to simply do the job. Tchocky - yes it is a singular interpretation. However, when the president is also the leader of his party - and his party speaks and acts in ways that demonstrate their continued goal - such as the impending gun legislation - is to further bind the rights of the people instead of solving the problems that contributed (such as state and federal governmental interference into what WAS a working mental health system at one time). A speech is all well and good - but to choose to dismiss the history - and impending acts of, the speaker and those his politics represent - is to be intentionally blind to the reality of the day. I don't think Obama is "evil". I don't think he is the AntiChrist. But I do believe that if you actually look at what he says - in light of his history of actions and the actions of those with whom he politically has joined himself, you cannot dismiss continued actions that we see happening even after such tragedy. Oh - and don't forget to sign up for your internet ID - don't worry - Big Brother isn't going to be watching........ __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

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01-13-11, 05:18 PM	#3
Tribesman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Oh dear oh dear third man, you are digging yourself into a big hole. Can you spot the obvious mistake you have made in your silly attempt at proving the "lies"? Its all to do with the statements of the two doctors. You know, the doctors whose statements you obviously didn't read

01-13-11, 08:08 PM	#15
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	My only real problem with Obama's speech was that while the bit about "tone" was OK, having it at the memorial connects it to the crime. It would have been better to explicitly mention that tone has wrongfully come up, and while it is a good discussion for the nation to have, it is unrelated. Mentioning tone at all was in fact giving it credence that it does not deserve.