Is my resolution too big?

farecoal · 12-30-10, 11:27 PM

Actually, where is the option for auto-scaling? I can't seem to find it.

Edit: Where is it in the control center, I mean.

frau kaleun · 12-30-10, 11:55 PM

Oddly enough I can't seem to find an option for it in the latest version of CCC - which I just installed after an OS upgrade.

I'm pretty sure that's where I did it in the version I had, though.

Ah, now I think I found it.

Under Desktops & Displays, select your display (if you're only hooked up to one monitor, it will only show one) and right click on its icon below where it says "Please select a display." Click on Configure, and you'll get a box with options for Image Scaling. I think what you want is "maintain aspect ratio," this will prevent the display from automatically rescaling the game to fill the whole desktop when it runs fullscreen.

EDIT: Actually now that I look at the "help" info for those options, it may be "centered timing" that is needed... argh, I haven't reinstalled the game yet so now I'm not sure exactly which one works for that. And this is a new version of CCC for me, it may have said "turn off auto-scaling" in the old one I had. Anyway - look for Scaling options in the Desktop/Display part of CCC and see what's there. You may have to play with it a bit to figure it out, I know I did... looks like I'll have to do it again this time around, lol.

farecoal · 12-31-10, 12:25 AM

Thanks again. I'll see if this works.

frau kaleun · 12-31-10, 12:53 AM

I played around with it a bit using my TV as a second display, because its native res is different than my monitor... both "maintain aspect ratio" and "centered timing" seem to have the same effect. Try one and then the other and see what happens.

Tessa · 12-31-10, 02:44 AM

I would recommend that you check out the MaGUI widescreen edition mod. They took the existing GUI and changed it so that GUI itself was changed and more items were added with the extra space. While there are a number of different widescreen mods out there, I believe all of them state that they are incompatible with any GUI mods, in my past experience trying those mods they merely streched the screen so everything was eliptical. Other's have reported the opposite, only way to know is to try it out.

The MaGUI widescreen was specifically altered in order to fit on 16:9 screens and use all their space. All the dials/scopes are perfect circles and there is a little more space in areas that were previously overloaded with too many controls on a single panel. However they did the MaGUI widescreen they really did it right, all ships and other objects are in their proper proportions and don't have any indications of streching.

farecoal · 12-31-10, 11:56 AM

For some reason, when I click configure on my display in CCC, the box that comes up doesn't have any options for aspect ratio or centering. I guess I can just try to play the game stretched. Also, Tessa, is the MaGui mod compatible with GWX/SH4Commander?

frau kaleun · 12-31-10, 03:27 PM

What version of CCC do you have? Are you in Basic or Advanced mode when you open it?

In mine, in Advanced mode, there's a "Graphics" dropdown menu in the top left corner. If I choose Desktops & Display, it shows me a window with the available desktops as numbered blue rectangles, one for each available display. (If only one monitor is hooked up, there's only a #1.) Below that is another area showing the hardware providing the display, an icon for each monitor/TV hooked up to the gfx card, also numbered. If I hold the cursor over one, the name of the device pops up. If I right click on one, I get a context menu with an option to Configure.

If I choose configure, I get a new dialog box for that device with several tabs up top, under the Attributes tab is where I can select options for Image Scaling.

12-30-10, 11:55 PM	#2
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	Oddly enough I can't seem to find an option for it in the latest version of CCC - which I just installed after an OS upgrade. I'm pretty sure that's where I did it in the version I had, though. Ah, now I think I found it. Under Desktops & Displays, select your display (if you're only hooked up to one monitor, it will only show one) and right click on its icon below where it says "Please select a display." Click on Configure, and you'll get a box with options for Image Scaling. I think what you want is "maintain aspect ratio," this will prevent the display from automatically rescaling the game to fill the whole desktop when it runs fullscreen. EDIT: Actually now that I look at the "help" info for those options, it may be "centered timing" that is needed... argh, I haven't reinstalled the game yet so now I'm not sure exactly which one works for that. And this is a new version of CCC for me, it may have said "turn off auto-scaling" in the old one I had. Anyway - look for Scaling options in the Desktop/Display part of CCC and see what's there. You may have to play with it a bit to figure it out, I know I did... looks like I'll have to do it again this time around, lol. Last edited by frau kaleun; 12-31-10 at 12:16 AM.

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12-30-10, 11:27 PM	#1
farecoal Swabbie Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 9 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Actually, where is the option for auto-scaling? I can't seem to find it. Edit: Where is it in the control center, I mean.

12-31-10, 12:25 AM	#3
farecoal Swabbie Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 9 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Thanks again. I'll see if this works.

12-31-10, 12:53 AM	#4
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	I played around with it a bit using my TV as a second display, because its native res is different than my monitor... both "maintain aspect ratio" and "centered timing" seem to have the same effect. Try one and then the other and see what happens.

12-31-10, 02:44 AM	#5
Tessa Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: CG 96 Posts: 861 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	I would recommend that you check out the MaGUI widescreen edition mod. They took the existing GUI and changed it so that GUI itself was changed and more items were added with the extra space. While there are a number of different widescreen mods out there, I believe all of them state that they are incompatible with any GUI mods, in my past experience trying those mods they merely streched the screen so everything was eliptical. Other's have reported the opposite, only way to know is to try it out. The MaGUI widescreen was specifically altered in order to fit on 16:9 screens and use all their space. All the dials/scopes are perfect circles and there is a little more space in areas that were previously overloaded with too many controls on a single panel. However they did the MaGUI widescreen they really did it right, all ships and other objects are in their proper proportions and don't have any indications of streching.

12-31-10, 11:56 AM	#6
farecoal Swabbie Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 9 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	For some reason, when I click configure on my display in CCC, the box that comes up doesn't have any options for aspect ratio or centering. I guess I can just try to play the game stretched. Also, Tessa, is the MaGui mod compatible with GWX/SH4Commander?

12-31-10, 03:27 PM	#7
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	What version of CCC do you have? Are you in Basic or Advanced mode when you open it? In mine, in Advanced mode, there's a "Graphics" dropdown menu in the top left corner. If I choose Desktops & Display, it shows me a window with the available desktops as numbered blue rectangles, one for each available display. (If only one monitor is hooked up, there's only a #1.) Below that is another area showing the hardware providing the display, an icon for each monitor/TV hooked up to the gfx card, also numbered. If I hold the cursor over one, the name of the device pops up. If I right click on one, I get a context menu with an option to Configure. If I choose configure, I get a new dialog box for that device with several tabs up top, under the Attributes tab is where I can select options for Image Scaling.