Why have 2 periscopes?

GoldenRivet · 12-27-10, 11:36 PM

is this concept of easier for them to see or harder for them to see simulated in GWX?

seems like i should know that

Sailor Steve · 12-28-10, 12:52 AM

I don't think SH3 allows for that.

On the other hand, this is the first subsim to actually have both periscopes, so it's a start.

4saken · 12-28-10, 02:30 AM

I always use the attack periscope because of the x10...You are actually saying that with the observation periscope you can see further?

kaleun69 · 12-28-10, 03:06 AM

Ahh nice that actually having 2 scopes is modeled in SHIII. However they semed to have reversed the funtions lol.. the attack parascope has a x10 zoom, the observation only x4.5 zoom.

On this topic, what orders of magnification did uboat periscopes actually have? Thought I read that it was less than x10. Also, I read somewhere that a sub couldnt go more than 5 knots with the perisope up and have it be usable due to vibration. Is that true?

Iranon · 12-28-10, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by 4saken

I always use the attack periscope because of the x10...You are actually saying that with the observation periscope you can see further?

Larger optics are an advantage in the dark, and that applies here.

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Also, we need a redundant periscope if they don't do their job of slashing destroyers open (this can happen, and they sink like stones... not exactly realistic but amusing)

Sailor Steve · 12-28-10, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 4saken

I always use the attack periscope because of the x10...You are actually saying that with the observation periscope you can see further?

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Originally Posted by kaleun69

Ahh nice that actually having 2 scopes is modeled in SHIII. However they semed to have reversed the funtions lol.. the attack parascope has a x10 zoom, the observation only x4.5 zoom.

On this topic, what orders of magnification did uboat periscopes actually have? Thought I read that it was less than x10.

Stock SH3 has the observation periscope set to x1 and x4, and the attack periscope set to x1.5 and x6. The latter is the proper setting for all real-life periscopes, at least for the Germans and the Americans. GWX made the attack 'scope go to x10 just so you could read the flags from a greater distance. I use Hitman's mod which gives the correct optics to both 'scopes and the UZO.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...o=file&id=1519

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Also, I read somewhere that a sub couldnt go more than 5 knots with the perisope up and have it be usable due to vibration. Is that true?

Yes it's true. It is my understanding that the acceptable limit is 3 knots.

GoldenRivet · 12-28-10, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Yes it's true. It is my understanding that the acceptable limit is 3 knots.

my understanding as well

Missing Name · 12-28-10, 11:55 AM

I found that ahead slow is your best bet. Not only would the periscope be unusable in real life, but the wake would be very visible at speeds above that.

Plus, going above ahead slow underwater is a good way for an escort to home in on your position.

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I don't think SH3 allows for that. On the other hand, this is the first subsim to actually have both periscopes, so it's a start. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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Missing Name Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Westun New Yahk Posts: 748 Downloads: 131 Uploads: 0	I found that ahead slow is your best bet. Not only would the periscope be unusable in real life, but the wake would be very visible at speeds above that. Plus, going above ahead slow underwater is a good way for an escort to home in on your position. __________________ Largest target sunk with deck gun: Japanese auxiliary cruiser, 15000 tons Largest engaged: HMS Nelson. Results inconclusive. Read Brag's stuff

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12-28-10, 02:30 AM	#3
4saken Mate Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Korfu, Ionisches Meer Posts: 59 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I always use the attack periscope because of the x10...You are actually saying that with the observation periscope you can see further?

12-28-10, 03:06 AM	#4
kaleun69 Watch Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 15 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Ahh nice that actually having 2 scopes is modeled in SHIII. However they semed to have reversed the funtions lol.. the attack parascope has a x10 zoom, the observation only x4.5 zoom. On this topic, what orders of magnification did uboat periscopes actually have? Thought I read that it was less than x10. Also, I read somewhere that a sub couldnt go more than 5 knots with the perisope up and have it be usable due to vibration. Is that true?