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Old 12-23-10, 03:00 PM   #1
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The USMC retired their Harriers too? I guess that's one of the things that factored into the FAA withdrawing their Harriers.
Still a shame but the F-35, once in service, should be a rather nice piece of kit.
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Old 12-23-10, 03:27 PM   #2
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The USMC retired their Harriers too? I guess that's one of the things that factored into the FAA withdrawing their Harriers.
Still a shame but the F-35, once in service, should be a rather nice piece of kit.
No, the USMC had two Harriers...
The AV-8A and C Harrier, basically a GR1 Harrier with the GR3 engine.

The AV-8B Harrier II, basically a more capable (all weather/Day and Night) American modification that formed the basis for the UK's GR5/7/9 Harrier II.


Edit: People would be screaming if we retired the Harrier right now. We got 10 flight decks that the Harrier is the only Fixed Wing fighter that can operate off them.
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Old 01-05-11, 01:48 PM   #3
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The AV-8B Harrier II, basically a more capable (all weather/Day and Night) American modification that formed the basis for the UK's GR5/7/9 Harrier II.
Actually a joint US/UK modification of the original Harrier, springing from an original British proposal.

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If things get that bad I'm sure the US Navy has some mothballed Destroyers left over from the Cuban Missile Crisis they could loan you, those would be just as effective as those Type 22 frigates I think.
Given the condition, design and eventual cost of the last US destroyers we got, I doubt the Royal Navy considers you have anything suitable to replace a mature, combat-proven class ("combat" not including driving them into Iraqi minefields, USN-style).
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Given the condition, design and eventual cost of the last US destroyers we got, I doubt the Royal Navy considers you have anything suitable to replace a mature, combat-proven class ("combat" not including driving them into Iraqi minefields, USN-style).
Shall I quote Farragut?

Oh and I guess our warships are not combat proven?


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