A system of revenge

[DarkFish]

Originally Posted by Growler

Whoa, easy, DF. I'm one of those "you all" to whom you're referring, and last time I checked, I hadn't shoved an oar into this conversation stating any of the above statements you're attributing to me.

I'm talking about the general US guy I see posting here. There are individuals to whom my statements do indeed not apply. There'll always be.
I also don't know if what I think is indeed true, but it definitely does seem so to me.

Originally Posted by MaddogK

Firstly- as a volunteer in the U.S. armed forces he should have understood he was no longer a citizen, but property of the U.S government. He gave up his freedom to act as an individual when he signed the contract to be part of the 'team' called the military, and again when he signed the confidentiality agreement when he applied for a security clearance.

I'm not defending the actions of our government, but you mistakenly think it's OK to NOT do what you promised to do because you don't agree with it.

How is this any different than the doctor who was recently courtmartialed because he refused to deploy, because he didn't agree that the president wasn't legally elected ?

This Manning fellow shared classified material with a foreign national because he felt it was his duty to NOT do his duty. He might as well shared plans for our nuclear missles because he feels it's wrong to be able to kill on such a large scale.

Didn't you read what I wrote or what? Read this:

Originally Posted by DarkFish

Yes, he did fail his duty as a soldier.

[MaddogK]

Originally Posted by DarkFish

Didn't you read what I wrote or what? Read this:

Yes, I read that, but it was superceded by

But as a citizen of the United States, he did what he should have done.

...and thats what I was replying to.

[DarkFish]

Originally Posted by MaddogK

Yes, I read that, but it was superceded by
...and thats what I was replying to.

Meaning that if he hadn't given his oath, I would have agreed with him.
He has broken his oath and he should be punished for that. It doesn't mean he should be tortured though (yes, he is being tortured as Skybird points out).

Most of you attack Assange as well, who has no such oath, not even any allegiance with your country. Many of you think he should be punished as well. Why is that, if he hasn't sworn any oath? If you still think Assange should be punished that would make your oath argument bogus as it would apparently not be any argument in your very own eyes...