H.Sie and the Track Angle

[h.sie]

Makman, mate!

I really don't like to say NO, especially to a guy like you that also spent much time to make a good sim.

BUT: Every little fix takes weeks to be programmed, tested and so on, since Hex-Coding has a huge potential for program crashes or side-effects.

I have only few time for modding because of certain reasons, and I ask for understanding, that I focus on essential issues.

Greetings,
h.sie

[LGN1]

Hi makman,

here is a screenshot of my personal (non-historical) TDC which I made for myself from other TDC mods. It shows you the torpedo course, allows you to enter a ship's course and not only the AOB, and also allows you to see the track angle



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[Hitman]

here is a screenshot of my personal (non-historical) TDC which I made for myself from other TDC mods. It shows you the torpedo course, allows you to enter a ship's course and not only the AOB, and also allows you to see the track angle

Hey that's very similar to a full screen TDC I have been working on, only mine follows the historically correct layout when possible.

How did you manage to get a dial for target course??

[LGN1]

Originally Posted by Hitman

Hey that's very similar to a full screen TDC I have been working on, only mine follows the historically correct layout when possible.

How did you manage to get a dial for target course??

Hi Hitman,

as you know bearing & own course & AOB determines target course. You have access to all three variables, however, I know only a method for showing a variable that depends on two variables. To circumvent the problem you have to set the bearing to 0 when you enter the course (you could also have a dial with different bearings, but in this case the dial is too cluttered).

It's not a perfect solution, but it works fine for me. As I said, you just have to set bearing=0 before you enter the course. If you are interested in more details I can send you the menu.ini and dials.cfg. IIRC, the real German TDC did not offer the possibility to enter the target course, did it?

Cheers, LGN1

[makman94]

Originally Posted by h.sie

Makman, mate!

I really don't like to say NO, especially to a guy like you that also spent much time to make a good sim.

BUT: Every little fix takes weeks to be programmed, tested and so on, since Hex-Coding has a huge potential for program crashes or side-effects.

I have only few time for modding because of certain reasons, and I ask for understanding, that I focus on essential issues.

Greetings,
h.sie

Thats ok H.Sie,sure....i understand !

although i have no idea on hex editing ,i can imagine how much 'painfull' it might be. thats why at my first post i told you to look at it when (and if ) you got some time or...will .

anyway, no matter what, i must thank you for listening

Originally Posted by LGN1

Hi makman,

here is a screenshot of my personal (non-historical) TDC which I made for myself from other TDC mods. It shows you the torpedo course, allows you to enter a ship's course and not only the AOB, and also allows you to see the track angle



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you know LGN1...it is not the first time that you gladly surprising me with the 'secrets' that you are 'hiding' in your HD !

if i get it right ...you mean that you managed to have a working dial for the track angle ? ....mate ,this is wonderfull news !
i was trying to get this dial in game but there is no code for calculating the track angle in sh3's code.so ,i gave up trying as it was needed someone to add the code first but you say that you managed to get it working ?if yes...then please share all the needed files for the track angle dial ! i am looking forward to see it in action.

about the target's course dial ...i can't see what would be the use of such a dial(as once you enter the aob to tdc...you have ,in fact, 'feed' it with the target's course) but this is also something that i would like to see

amazing achievements LGN1 !

bravo !

[h.sie]

I would also like to have a look at LGN1's hard disk. Maybe I should implant a little sniffer in the next sh3.exe.

[LGN1]

Hi makman,

I am not hiding anything. I am just not releasing all my mods done for myself because of

a) they might not be 100% fool-proof
b) they can be difficult to install
c) I am too lazy to document all things (modding should remain a hobby and not become an administrative job)
d) they use input from many different modders and I doubt it's worth asking all of them for permission for a small mod.

But as you can see, I am quite willing to share the information/details.

You are right that the target course dial is not really needed because you control it via the AOB. However, I personally 'think' in terms of target course. That's the variable I determine during shadowing... In most cases it's constant (during a zigzag leg) and independent from what I am doing with my boat. So, I think it's the more 'natural' variable. Especially for non-90° shots the AOB is not that intuitive.

The situation is completely different if you do not determine the target's course, e.g., if you have to shoot quickly. In this case the AOB is a much better variable because you can 'see' it through the scope, not like the target's course.

To be exact, the track angle dial in my mod is a torpedo course dial. However, if you know the target's course (and you can read it in the other dial), it allows you to see the track angle. You do not have to do any math in your head. It's not a perfect track angle dial, but it works ok for me and I doubt you can do it better without modding hard-coded stuff.

Cheers, LGN1