Temps and graphics

CaptainMattJ. · 12-03-10, 10:15 PM

When playing......say Silent Hunter 5 on Maxed settings and a decently high res, would that increase Core temperatures/computer temperatures in general?

I dont think they do, seeing as how the graphics card has its own heatsink and fan, and does all graphics processing on its own, but i want to be sure, so when i get my new card it wont overheat the system.

And, what temps are relatively safe for a computer? 50 C? 60 C?

Arclight · 12-04-10, 07:27 AM

CPU I wouldn't let get much above 50C (still "safe" though). GPU typically runs much hotter, actual temp depends on the chip. Imho 80C is pretty high.

In the end it doesn't matter though. If you build a gaming rig, you want the best cooling you can get in there (no need to jump on the liquid-cooling bandwagon just yet though). If it overheats, you need better cooling. The actual temps don't really matter.

antikristuseke · 12-04-10, 09:52 AM

Temps mater more to some other components than the gpu or cpu, mosfets fr instance start loosing their life expectancy exponentially at temperatures above 50C

Arclight · 12-04-10, 09:56 AM

I've always wondered if those heatpipes snaking across motherboards are effective.

antikristuseke · 12-04-10, 09:57 AM

They seem to be from my experience, but a well ventilated case is better.

CaptainMattJ. · 12-04-10, 04:46 PM

Cool. But, would the GPU running so hot in turn heat up the rest of the system?

Arclight · 12-04-10, 05:33 PM

If you mean ambient temperature of the case, then of course. Cards that vent the heat out the back are preferred if that's an issue. Keeping the air moving (efficiently) in the case is important for a gaming system, considering the system is under high load for prolonged periods, meaning a lot of components giving off plenty of heat.

onelifecrisis · 12-07-10, 08:43 AM

I've read many times on the net that "anything over 50C is bad" or similar. It's garbage!

My current PC idles at ~50C CPU and ~65 GPU. During intensive games it runs at ~80C CPU and ~85C GPU. I don't have any extra cooling in it (though I do have to clean dust off the CPU heat sink every now and then or it starts to overheat). My previous PC ran games at ~80C CPU and ~80C GPU and it lasted through five years of intensive gaming (without even being regularly cleaned) before the PSU finally gave out and I replaced the whole rig.

Processors are designed to run hot. Cooler is better, but hot is not actually a problem (unless it gets really hot, like over 90C).

Arclight · 12-07-10, 10:23 AM

Myeah, technically true. Something like a Q9550 runs up to 70C safely, according to Microsoft's specifications, but it will indeed run much higher without commiting suicide. You can expect impact on lifetime though, but if a chip would last only 3 years instead of 5, it's still likely you would replace it before it fails.

Still, what's the point in burning up a chip if you can get a decent 3rd-party cooler for something like 20-30 bucks? Maybe you can collect the parts left over after upgrades and build a second PC, use it as a server or sell it or something.

Better safe than sorry, right?

JSLTIGER · 12-07-10, 01:24 PM

60C is generally the so-called magic number for CPUs for everything that I've read. So long as you're under that under load, you should see no decrease in life on the CPU. GPUs always run hotter, but if you start seeing anything over 75-80C, I would start becoming concerned.

Seth8530 · 12-07-10, 09:12 PM

It all depends on the CPU type and GPU type. Intel's I7's can run happily in the 70's C while AMD's tend to get really pissed off once they exceed 55 to 60. My gtx 285 GPU often hits around 90C and run stable but much more than that it get s grumpy. It ALL depends on the hardware your running.

onelifecrisis · 12-08-10, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JSLTIGER

GPUs always run hotter, but if you start seeing anything over 75-80C, I would start becoming concerned.

This is not true. My graphics card (GTX 260) is designed to keep the fan idle until it reaches 85C, and only then turn up the fan just enough to keep the temp at 85C. In other words it's designed to run hot and quiet, rather than loud and cool.

Arclight · 12-09-10, 04:49 AM

Think that has more to do with "silent" being the new buzzword than proper design tbh.

Ever since graphics card reviews started including noise-measurements, cards have been becoming more quiet, not always for the best. My 8800 for example was so "quiet" that it would overheat, until i manually set a more aggressive profile.

Dowly · 12-09-10, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arclight

Think that has more to do with "silent" being the new buzzword than proper design tbh.

Ever since graphics card reviews started including noise-measurements, cards have been becoming more quiet, not always for the best. My 8800 for example was so "quiet" that it would overheat, until i manually set a more aggressive profile.

This true. My PC sounds like an old beaten up Trabant, but for god's sake it works.

Ow and my case is fine example of "silence over design", it has 2 fans, the PSU fan and a 120mm fan on the bottom and the "walls" are covered with rubber foam of sorts to keep it silent. Sure, it's quiet as hell, but it also heats up very fast.

Here's the best part: the case is called "Nexus Breeze"

12-03-10, 10:15 PM	#1
CaptainMattJ. The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,364 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	Temps and graphics When playing......say Silent Hunter 5 on Maxed settings and a decently high res, would that increase Core temperatures/computer temperatures in general? I dont think they do, seeing as how the graphics card has its own heatsink and fan, and does all graphics processing on its own, but i want to be sure, so when i get my new card it wont overheat the system. And, what temps are relatively safe for a computer? 50 C? 60 C? __________________ A popular Government without popular information nor the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives - James Madison

12-04-10, 07:27 AM	#2
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	CPU I wouldn't let get much above 50C (still "safe" though). GPU typically runs much hotter, actual temp depends on the chip. Imho 80C is pretty high. In the end it doesn't matter though. If you build a gaming rig, you want the best cooling you can get in there (no need to jump on the liquid-cooling bandwagon just yet though). If it overheats, you need better cooling. The actual temps don't really matter. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

12-04-10, 09:56 AM	#4
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	I've always wondered if those heatpipes snaking across motherboards are effective. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

12-04-10, 04:46 PM	#6
CaptainMattJ. The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,364 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	Cool. But, would the GPU running so hot in turn heat up the rest of the system? __________________ A popular Government without popular information nor the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives - James Madison

12-04-10, 05:33 PM	#7
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	If you mean ambient temperature of the case, then of course. Cards that vent the heat out the back are preferred if that's an issue. Keeping the air moving (efficiently) in the case is important for a gaming system, considering the system is under high load for prolonged periods, meaning a lot of components giving off plenty of heat. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

12-04-10, 09:52 AM	#3
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Temps mater more to some other components than the gpu or cpu, mosfets fr instance start loosing their life expectancy exponentially at temperatures above 50C

12-04-10, 09:57 AM	#5
antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	They seem to be from my experience, but a well ventilated case is better.

12-07-10, 08:43 AM	#8
onelifecrisis Maverick Modder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: England Posts: 3,895 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 3	I've read many times on the net that "anything over 50C is bad" or similar. It's garbage! My current PC idles at ~50C CPU and ~65 GPU. During intensive games it runs at ~80C CPU and ~85C GPU. I don't have any extra cooling in it (though I do have to clean dust off the CPU heat sink every now and then or it starts to overheat). My previous PC ran games at ~80C CPU and ~80C GPU and it lasted through five years of intensive gaming (without even being regularly cleaned) before the PSU finally gave out and I replaced the whole rig. Processors are designed to run hot. Cooler is better, but hot is not actually a problem (unless it gets really hot, like over 90C).

12-07-10, 10:23 AM	#9
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Myeah, technically true. Something like a Q9550 runs up to 70C safely, according to Microsoft's specifications, but it will indeed run much higher without commiting suicide. You can expect impact on lifetime though, but if a chip would last only 3 years instead of 5, it's still likely you would replace it before it fails. Still, what's the point in burning up a chip if you can get a decent 3rd-party cooler for something like 20-30 bucks? Maybe you can collect the parts left over after upgrades and build a second PC, use it as a server or sell it or something. Better safe than sorry, right? __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

12-07-10, 01:24 PM	#10
JSLTIGER The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Parkland, FL, USA Posts: 1,437 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	60C is generally the so-called magic number for CPUs for everything that I've read. So long as you're under that under load, you should see no decrease in life on the CPU. GPUs always run hotter, but if you start seeing anything over 75-80C, I would start becoming concerned. __________________ Thor: Intel Core i7 4770K\|ASUS Z87Pro\|32GB DDR3 RAM\|11GB EVGA GeForce RTX 2080Ti Black\|256GB Crucial M4 SSD+2TB WD HDD\|4X LG BD-RE\|32" Acer Predator Z321QU 165Hz G-Sync (2540x1440)\|Logitech Z-323 2.1 Sound\|Win 10 Pro Explorer (MSI GL63 8RE-629 Laptop): Intel Core i7 8750H\|16GB DDR4 RAM\|6GB GeForce GTX 1060\|128GB SSD+1TB HDD\|15.6" Widescreen (1920x1080)\|Logitech R-20 2.1 Sound\|Win 10 Home

12-07-10, 09:12 PM	#11
Seth8530 Captain Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tennessee Posts: 546 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	It all depends on the CPU type and GPU type. Intel's I7's can run happily in the 70's C while AMD's tend to get really pissed off once they exceed 55 to 60. My gtx 285 GPU often hits around 90C and run stable but much more than that it get s grumpy. It ALL depends on the hardware your running. __________________

12-09-10, 04:49 AM	#13
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Think that has more to do with "silent" being the new buzzword than proper design tbh. Ever since graphics card reviews started including noise-measurements, cards have been becoming more quiet, not always for the best. My 8800 for example was so "quiet" that it would overheat, until i manually set a more aggressive profile. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

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