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Old 12-03-10, 08:00 PM   #1
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Surely, it would be better for everyone if we abolished the right of the property owner to ask us to leave so that we would be safe in our knowledge that we could not be accused of trespassing once invited in, regardless of how we decided to use or abuse our hosts' hospitality once we're in!
I'm kind of leaning in favor of the "contract" idea, as long as it's an actual contract - you know, one that is agreed to up front by both parties so that everybody (not just the party that the contract inevitably favors) knows how it's supposed to play out and what the consequences will be if it doesn't.

So when I showed up at your door and you opened it and invited me in, I'd let you know before I entered that I considered your invitation to constitute a binding agreement granting me access to your home for an indefinite period of time to be determined by me. And I'd also let you know what compensation I expected to receive should you decide to renege on that agreement at any time before I decided the indefinite period of time had expired. There, now that we're both clear on - if you'll just sign this - hey wait, what are you -

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Actually I'm even more interested in how this contract thing would work out in sexual encounters. Especially the compensation part. I've been pretty lucky lately, but in my younger years... I mean, if I had a nickel for every time some dude decided we were done before I was completely satisfied...
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Old 12-03-10, 08:06 PM   #2
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Actually I'm even more interested in how this contract thing would work out in sexual encounters. Especially the compensation part. I've been pretty lucky lately, but in my younger years... I mean, if I had a nickel for every time some dude decided we were done before I was completely satisfied...
"Okay, I'll agree to number one, but number two is right out. Well, If you'll agree to try this, then I'll agree not to file suit if I don't like number four. Oh, and we have to be done by two-thirty, so I can get home in time to feed my cat. Okay, initial here and sign here."
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I mean, if I had a nickel for every time some dude decided we were done before I was completely satisfied...
Euuuuu!!

Now I'm completely shaken'!
I think I know what the definition of reslut is now.
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Old 12-03-10, 10:54 PM   #4
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Euuuuu!!

Now I'm completely shaken'!
I think I know what the definition of reslut is now.


To be fair it was really only one dude that didn't live up to the terms of the implied contract... there was just a whole lot of not living up to it (among other things) before I decided enough was enough. In fact I'm not even gonna add up all those nickels I missed out on, because the total would be far too depressing.

But it's okay, I iz much smarter now. S-M-R-T, smart! And at least I didn't marry the guy. So there's that.

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"Okay, I'll agree to number one, but number two is right out. Well, If you'll agree to try this, then I'll agree not to file suit if I don't like number four. Oh, and we have to be done by two-thirty, so I can get home in time to feed my cat. Okay, initial here and sign here."
Well, aren't you a sweet-talking devil. I think you better dial down the romance a bit, I feel a swoon coming on.

That said, please notice the underlined, italicized, and bold-face section of the aforementioned document that stipulates absolutely NO AIR BASS PLAYING otherwise the whole deal is off.

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Now pay particular attention to this first clause, because it's most important. There's the party of the first part shall be known in this contract as the party of the first part. How do you like that, that's pretty neat eh?
Pretty neat, although I think the sanity clause is going to put us all out of the running.

(Now if that's not a setup for a great comeback, I don't know what is. Aaaaand you're welcome.)
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Old 12-03-10, 09:01 PM   #5
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Actually I'm even more interested in how this contract thing would work out in sexual encounters. Especially the compensation part. I've been pretty lucky lately, but in my younger years... I mean, if I had a nickel for every time some dude decided we were done before I was completely satisfied...

Now pay particular attention to this first clause, because it's most important. There's the party of the first part shall be known in this contract as the party of the first part. How do you like that, that's pretty neat eh?
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if I had a nickel for every time some dude decided we were done before I was completely satisfied...

My doctor asked me if I suffered from Premature Ejaculation.

I told him, I don't; but my wife does.

<rimshot>

Thank you, you have been a great thread. I will be here all weekend.

Be sure to tip the veal and try the waitress.
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Old 12-03-10, 11:50 PM   #7
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A man went to the doctor for his annual checkup. The doctor asked him if he had any medical complaints, and the man - somewhat bashfully - answered in the affirmative.

"Well then, what seems to be the problem?" the doctor asked.

The man quietly explained that the problems were of a rather intimate nature, and after much prompting, finally elaborated on the exact nature of his complaint. After many "hmms" and "ahas" and a thorough physical, the doctor excused himself from the room. When he returned he handed the man a sheet of paper.

"I've written down my diagnosis and some suggestions that might help you out," he said. "Make a followup appointment for one month from now and if things haven't improved we'll try something else." The man took the paper, read it over carefully, thanked the doctor, and dutifully made another appointment on his way out of the office.

Late one Friday afternoon a month later the doctor opened the door of the exam room to find the same man sitting there in full fancy dress - starched white shirt, elegant walking stick, and a black tuxedo complete with bow tie, cummerbund, tails and even a top hat.

"Good morning," the doctor said, all cool professionalism. "Have you been following the suggestions I gave you?"

"Yes, I have," the man replied. "But they haven't helped a bit."

"Well, that's too bad. But don't worry, there are other things we can try... therapy, medications..." At this the doctor paused and smiled. "But I see it hasn't interfered with your social life," he continued. "Looks like you've got a very special evening planned."

"No, nothing special," the man answered. "And my social life is crap. But I finally decided that if I was gonna be impotent, I was sure as hell gonna look impotent."
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Old 12-04-10, 12:18 AM   #8
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A pun at maturity is fully groan.

News Flash: A crate load of Viagra has been stolen from a distribution warehouse - police are looking for hardened criminals.
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News Flash: A crate load of Viagra has been stolen from a distribution warehouse - police are looking for hardened criminals.
Hospitals in the region have been asked to be on the lookout for unusual cases of priapism. If your erection lasts for more than four hours, please seek immediate medical help.
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Old 12-05-10, 06:26 AM   #10
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This German essay , entitled "The loneliness of a superpower", sees it slightly different, saying that although the leak is a diplomatic disaster, it reveals how much healthy reason the diplomatic service of the United States is revealing in its assessements, even if officially these assessements are lied about. It also shows how sensibly and carefully and often cleverly the US is acting in world policies, in the background, and that the world without the US's attempts without doubt would be a much worse place. Finally it is pointed out that the American diplomatic assessments often seem to collide with the much more self-decepting assessements by the Europeans, an example given in the form of Turkey that many Europeans tend to see as a great chance for the EU while the US already rates it as an islamistic regime falling into the realm of ultra-fundamentalists that do openly desire for the destruction of European value culture and takeover of Europe by Osman empire 2.0.

In general the essay says the reveleations by wikileaks for the most are a compliment for the healthy reason of the US diplomatic service. I have sympathy for that view, although there are obviously exceptions from the rule..


I do not have so much problems with most of the leaked revelations by content. I only wish and demand that official policies would be more in consistency with these. Transparency is what it is about. And if that sends a message of the US/ther West using tougher policies, then this would send a message to the international bullies. At least a more powerful message than the endless appeasement attempts of the Europeans who always talk soft and nice even when getting spit in their faces. No reliable principles, no spine, its own rules opportunistically manipulated whenever it sees fit
- that is the EU.
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...Finally it is pointed out that the American diplomatic assessments often seem to collide with the much more self-decepting assessements by the Europeans, ...
It would be tremendously intersting to read some European diplomatic cables and see how well they conform to their nations public stance. I'm willing to bet that they privately agree on a great many more points than they do in public.

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I have no problems with it either. It's kind of like having everyone stop and turn over their cards in the middle of an especially tense poker hand.

These revelations have certainly changed the game - and I'd say for the better - a dose of truth right now might help the NATO nations make some decisions based on expediency rather then political maneuvering back home.

It's also interesting that immediately after their release, Obama made a surprise visit to Afghanistan, where he thanked Ambassador Karl Eikenberry for his work and cancelled a planned visit with Karzai.

I am sincerely hoping that the next le Carré is presently combing through these cables for material.

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(BTW, afaik the bank has not yet been identified. Just for the record.)
Yes, you're right. Assange mentioned that he has a lot of Bank of America material, but has repeatedly refused to state that this material will be the content of his up-coming bank realease.

Personally I am looking forward to this release more than any other, and I was also half-joking about this release being the ultimate cause of his demise.



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Actually I'm even more interested in how this contract thing would work out in sexual encounters. Especially the compensation part. I've been pretty lucky lately, but in my younger years... I mean, if I had a nickel for every time some dude decided we were done before I was completely satisfied...
I knew I should have paid more attention to the lecture on 'liquidated damages clauses.'
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Old 12-04-10, 08:24 AM   #13
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Old 12-04-10, 11:35 AM   #14
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Any bets on if/when Assange gets the royal butt-kicking? I'll chip in a used Berg adaptor for "uhhh... i'unno"
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