RSRD orders you to empty areas

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by jldjs

Go to the small bay near prot of Rausu. Got my first carrier there playint TMO.
I just playing TMO & RSRDC. Have been on 8 patrols and all of them sent me to Bashi. I submitted my own thread on this but got no answer to why RSRDC doesn't chnage my new patrols. I've transferred three times from Pearl to Brisbane and back yet I always get sent to Bashi. This seems like something not working right in RSRDC. Maybe someone could explain just how RSRDC chooses a patrol area.

Where is Bashi? Do you have the dates and I will check. I've never heard of anyone using RSRD in years that got sent to the same patrol area over
and over. I assume you're using 1.5 and correct versions of TMORSRD.
I play TMO/RSRD and have never even been sent to the same area more than once. Sometimes the next patrol will be close, but still a different area, but still that only happens a few times. Overall, we should be getting about the exact patrol zones since we both play south.

[Bubblehead1980]

Well I checked traffica via the mission editor, opened up the layers and as I suspected, no traffic.

Okhotsk does have a few convoys, I know there are some in May of 44.

[Armistead]

Most of the traffic is in the JP TF and invasion group files.....compare it with patrol zones if you use the S3D. You'll notice if you start out of Manila where are your first patrol zones...Lingayen, Aparri, San Bern...All large TF. If you arrange a second patrol out of Manila you'll probably get a patrol zone for the Lingayen 2 invasion group. The same for the large Java, out of Sura you usually get a patrol zone for it in 3 different places based on time. They're many others, two notable ones are you'll get a patrol zone for the Yamato's last voyage and another for the Shinano. Most of Lurkers patrol zones are connected to such, not the convoy files.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Armistead

Most of the traffic is in the JP TF and invasion group files.....compare it with patrol zones if you use the S3D. You'll notice if you start out of Manila where are your first patrol zones...Lingayen, Aparri, San Bern...All large TF. If you arrange a second patrol out of Manila you'll probably get a patrol zone for the Lingayen 2 invasion group. The same for the large Java, out of Sura you usually get a patrol zone for it in 3 different places based on time. They're many others, two notable ones are you'll get a patrol zone for the Yamato's last voyage and another for the Shinano. Most of Lurkers patrol zones are connected to such, not the convoy files.

Thats cool and I've looked at it all in the ME, TF, convoys, singles etc BUT considering the main mission of US subs was to sink Japanese merchant shipping, it's a bit much to be assigned repeatedly to areas devoid of convoy and merchant traffic.Eventually I will add some convoys to run from Singapore to Japan via South China Sea, Luzon Strait(Convoy College) and up the east side of Ryuku Islands as well convoys running from Japan to Singapore the same route, was a very busy route most of the war and basically empty esp when it comes to convoys.

[Armistead]

Agree and disagree. The large invasion forces are merchant groups and you'll get patrol zones to those constantly, problem is they die out around 43 and are limited to campaign areas. In the beginning of RSRD it doe's a good job of placing you in these zones, but around 42 fades out. After the Solomon's the patrol zones are basically a waste of time if you know where to hunt, you'll do better elsewhere.

You have to keep in mind, you've played it long enough that you've become rather a pro. Like anything you do it over and over, it becomes somewhat repetitious and boring and then you start wanting better things, you notice what's missing. Why we both want to add so much to it, probably bored knowing it all. Most that start playing RSRD complain of no traffic, where you or I could stay involved fighting large convoys, TF's and getting involved in the battles almost every day. Now that I'm looking inside the ME, I'm surprised at how well I had RSRD figured out, but that's knowing history. Be nice to loop some of this traffic so it doesn't always take the same path.

I understand why the patrol zones bother some, why I just prefer to go to where the action is, but I'm getting tired of the same old TF, battles, ect..I hope they don't give up on the jap merchant mod, more ships, more traffic, they could really expand on it and be a much needed mod. I think I'll give SH5 a chance or try SH3


I've been playing with the celestial navigator. It's fun not having a sub icon on your map and using the navigating with programs like Stellarium and Celestia.

Originally Posted by Armistead

Where is Bashi? Do you have the dates and I will check. I've never heard of anyone using RSRD in years that got sent to the same patrol area over
and over. I assume you're using 1.5 and correct versions of TMORSRD.
I play TMO/RSRD and have never even been sent to the same area more than once. Sometimes the next patrol will be close, but still a different area, but still that only happens a few times. Overall, we should be getting about the exact patrol zones since we both play south.

Bashi Channel is in the Luzon Staights. I've played 8 patrols with TMO/RSRD and only been sent to Bashi!! That's why I question it. Here's my MODs;
TMO 2.0
TMO_20_Beta_update
RSRDC_TMO_V502
RSRDC_V5xx_Patch1
MaxOptics IV for TMO_2
3000 Yard Bearing Tool(1280x)
EAXSoundsim_without_WebstersManuever_T
Return for Creaks and Man the Deck(Flak) Gun
Convoy Routes for TMO 2.0
Fixed Zero Bomb Load RSRDC
Fixed CD_sonar_RSRDC
IJN_Rad_Fix_for_TMO2_betaupdate

Do you see anything wrong? I started my career in early '43 and my 8th patrol is Dec '43. I left from Midway Nov 26, '43 hoping to be sent to Mariannas or Truk. Nope, back to Bashi. Something must be "stuck".
SHould I re-install? Re-install what? What file are you lookiing at the generates the RSRD patrol areas?

[Diopos]

Bug.! Early stock versions had it. You do have an issue I think. Reinstalling might be a solution. Proceed with caution !!!!!

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[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Diopos

Bug.! Early stock versions had it. You do have an issue I think. Reinstalling might be a solution. Proceed with caution !!!!!

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Not a bug, it wasnt a bug in stock.The devs just didnt bother to put some traffic in certain areas but did write mission orders.Marshall Islands come to mind.

Armistead, I'm not bored with RSRD but knowing history I do notice things are missing, thus why desire some changes but RSRD is great, just needs some tweaking. Well instead of hunting the TF all the time, just patrol looking for convoys, play 100 realism, trying operating out of different areas, or try an older class of sub etc, there is a lot of variety in SH 4 with TMO and RSRD.

I'm sure SH 5 will be good eventually but I asked about it on the SH 5 forum a while back and had many PM warning me to wait a bit.I hate the DRM thing and will save myself the trouble.SH 5 currently looks very arcade like also.SH 4 is grea and only improving.With some changes to RSRD, could be really great.

[Armistead]

jld, I believe your game is messed up, TMO, nor RSRD doe's that. Your mods look OK. I assume you're running 1.5 Gold version, because that was a bug from long ago. You could try pulling all your mods out, but sounds like your game got fubared somewhere.


My guess is your have some corrupt files in your base game now and probably gonna have to reinstall. Just save your mods folder somewhere else and rename it.

Originally Posted by Armistead

jld, I believe your game is messed up, TMO, nor RSRD doe's that. Your mods look OK. I assume you're running 1.5 Gold version, because that was a bug from long ago. You could try pulling all your mods out, but sounds like your game got fubared somewhere.


My guess is your have some corrupt files in your base game now and probably gonna have to reinstall. Just save your mods folder somewhere else and rename it.

So I copied over a fresh file of SHIV 1.5, added all the MODs again, installed them with JSGME, started a campaign Aug 5, 1942, and my first patrol from Midway sends me to ... you guessed it Bashi! Do I have the right version of RSRD? Got it from Lurker's site V502 posted 11/2009.

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by jldjs

So I copied over a fresh file of SHIV 1.5, added all the MODs again, installed them with JSGME, started a campaign Aug 5, 1942, and my first patrol from Midway sends me to ... you guessed it Bashi! Do I have the right version of RSRD? Got it from Lurker's site V502 posted 11/2009.

Did you try another patrol to see if you would get sent there again?
You are using the correct version. I assume you meant April, not August, correct? You are using the RSRD patch...think you were.

Did you try just TMO first, then RSRD?


Possible a mod is corrupt, may want to try new downloads.


Be interesting to know if your traffic is working, try a career out of Manila and go sit right at the entrance to Lingayen gulf and wait at least 7 days and see if the big invasion force shows up. If you sit in the middle of Lingayen and head north, you can't miss it.

If that doesn't work, I don't know, something is wierd cause I don't know of anyone that has this problem. Let me know for sure of the dates, but I'll check and see the patrol zones for April 5.

[Diopos]

Reoccurring missions was a bug. Regardless of traffic or not, you were sent to the same area with the same orders, again and again.

The government did it all the time in the 60s and 70s...

[Diopos]

Originally Posted by NoGoodLandLubber

The government did it all the time in the 60s and 70s...

It still does!

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[Thrair]

Heh, my gripe is that I am ALWAYS sent to Convoy College. And since I tend to play early war, that means the air-cover there is thick as mosquitoes.