Anybody here like playing Axis and Allies Anniversary Edition?

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Castout

Umm I think I got you right. You were saying basically just because chess if abstract it doesn't mean it cannot teach one anything with regard to life's perspective.

Nööö, not really: I said that right becasue it is more abstract it can teach you about other situations a bit better than a game which is more specific in its focus.

It's a gamer's version of the scientific reliability-validity-dilemma. You cannot have both - the more you focus on the one, the less you get of the other, and vice versa.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliabi...3%A4ts-Dilemma

[Castout]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Nööö, not really: I said that right becasue it is more abstract it can teach you about other situations a bit better than a game which is more specific in its focus.

It's a gamer's version of the scientific reliability-validity-dilemma. You cannot have both - the more you focus on the one, the less you get of the other, and vice versa.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliabi...3%A4ts-Dilemma

Actually that already crossed my mind too

The thing is our brain is designed in such a way so that more efficient result could be gotten from frequent usage. I've noticed that while playing certain board games I tend to get a mild headache which is only noticeable towards the end or after the game(usually after the game though). And it's not due to illness or high blood pressure or anything.


This headache will gradually diminishes after frequent plays of that specific board game. I sincerely believe it's the neuron pathways connecting in a way they were never before. The brain is rewiring itself. It can only do this if one gives a serious effort to the thinking process despite the difficulty.
If one just simply plays without committing to winning there's no way the brain is going to form new pathways.

I take it it's the same or similar process happening when one plays chess regularly

Edit now I just re read your previous post and it became a lot clearer well English is not my foremost virtue (sheepish)

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Castout

Actually that already crossed my mind too

The thing is our brain is designed in such a way so that more efficient result could be gotten from frequent usage. I've noticed that while playing certain board games I tend to get a mild headache which is only noticeable towards the end or after the game(usually after the game though). And it's not due to illness or high blood pressure or anything.


This headache will gradually diminishes after frequent plays of that specific board game. I sincerely believe it's the neuron pathways connecting in a way they were never before. The brain is rewiring itself. It can only do this if one gives a serious effort to the thinking process despite the difficulty.
If one just simply plays without committing to winning there's no way the brain is going to form new pathways.

I take it it's the same or similar process happening when one plays chess regularly

Edit now I just re read your previous post and it became a lot clearer well English is not my foremost virtue (sheepish)

I have a university diploma in clinical psychology, and we also needed to do some stuff on psychophysiology and neurology and brain. It's the first time I heared that neurological activity patterns that have not be run before should cause a headache, and brain neurons themselves also cannot feel or cause sensations of pain. Also, neurological "rewiring" does not take place from one instance to the next, but just repeated and repetitive practice, again this is a painless process.

If you have headaches during playing, this can have many origins, from stress, over your body'S position while sitting (especially neck and back), to bloodpressure, environmental factors (light, bad air, noise), and other things like that. Headaches are mostly caused by sensory input by the nervous system being interpreted as "pain" in the brain, or the blood vessels in the brain changing their volume and swelling, increasing brainvolume and implying pressure on the whole thing (making pressure sensors ringing the - painful - alarm bell). Swelling brains also are likely to influence your cognitive functions and the activity of the effected brain areas sooner or later. Brain neurons have no pain or pressure sensors, that'S why during brain surgery you get an anestesia for cutting through thre skin, flesh and bone, but not the brain matter itself - certain types of brain surgeries even are done with the patient being conscious, he does not feel the cutting of neurons, but must report any change in his general body perceptions or cognitive functions.

Find some less exotic explanation for why you have headaches when playing certain games. Neural re-construction of your brain network are not the cause, I promise you.