Time compression question

SilentSnake · 10-15-10, 09:16 AM

Its aug 1940 in my game and im sailing from lorient although my base has only just been changed because of the recent fall of france. Ive got CG85 and every time i start going down a convoy appears and i have to end up going back up to intercept it burning valuable fuel. I guess best tactic is to just sit their and wait for the convoys to appear. Just another question on compression though. Im using the GWX mod and whenever a big convoy is close to my sub the compression slows drastically. Does that happen to you guys?

frau kaleun · 10-15-10, 09:33 AM

Unless you've edited the default settings for how TC works, whenever you spot a convoy (or any other vessel) it should automatically drop out of a higher TC and back to real time or at least a much lower TC.

So, yeah, if you are running at 128 (or higher TC) and a convoy comes within range, you should drop back to a lower TC. That's not to be confused with the "lag" that sometimes happens when a lot of activity is going on and there are many units being rendered in a small area, like a convoy appearing in range or when you're in a crowded harbor area going to and from base. Things can get a little laggy or choppy then, it sometimes happens to me especially when I attack a convoy and all hell breaks loose.

My first time sailing into Lorient the lag got so bad that the screen completely froze up several times - no CTD and I was able to dock OK but I was really nervous. I start patrols from sea now, the French bases may be a little more than my system can handle without killing the framerate.

Jimbuna · 10-15-10, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SilentSnake

Its aug 1940 in my game and im sailing from lorient although my base has only just been changed because of the recent fall of france. Ive got CG85 and every time i start going down a convoy appears and i have to end up going back up to intercept it burning valuable fuel. I guess best tactic is to just sit their and wait for the convoys to appear. Just another question on compression though. Im using the GWX mod and whenever a big convoy is close to my sub the compression slows drastically. Does that happen to you guys?

Tis quite normal unless you have a high spec machine/system.

CherryHarbey · 10-15-10, 11:19 AM

Yes, I seem to be constantly fighting the temptation to change my behaviour when the frame rate drops.
Realism tells me that my dip for a hydrophone listen isn't due for an hour, the bad voices try to tell me to dip now and find a big convoy.
Have to keep telling myself that I would only be cheating myself.

desirableroasted · 10-15-10, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SilentSnake

Its aug 1940 in my game and im sailing from lorient although my base has only just been changed because of the recent fall of france. Ive got CG85 and every time i start going down a convoy appears and i have to end up going back up to intercept it burning valuable fuel. I guess best tactic is to just sit their and wait for the convoys to appear. Just another question on compression though. Im using the GWX mod and whenever a big convoy is close to my sub the compression slows drastically. Does that happen to you guys?

In GWX, fuel is almost a throwaway thing. In the VII classes, you have 32K+ of range at 8 knts, enough for more than 150 days at sea. If you stick to 8knts for everything but intercepts, and work out your convoy intercept plots accurately, fuel is the last thing you will run out of.

If you are using SH3 Commander, you have different TC settings, depending on what's happening around you. You may want to adjust those.

However, remember the math... at 128TC, you are pretty much giving the AI a 20 minute head start. That's one reason new players complain about their watch officers -- the watch officer sees a ship at 9000, but by the time you get to the bridge, the target may be already abeam at 3000.

I must admit, though, that I freely go around at 256TC (though at 8 knots) quite often in the early war, especially on the homeward bound, which I route outside (most) air cover. By late '40, though, 128 is my limit.

JokerOfFate · 10-15-10, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by desirableroasted

I must admit, though, that I freely go around at 256TC (though at 8 knots) quite often in the early war, especially on the homeward bound, which I route outside (most) air cover. By late '40, though, 128 is my limit.

I do the same, but I've always got my finger on the Crash dive hotkey.

I got caught off-guard a while back, I left the game on by mistake

next thing I know a Task force appears and opens fire on me luckily I had the sound on.

I fire a salvo off and crash dive, they all hit but 2 were duds and the third one missed every ship in the task force and hit a fishing boat about 10km away

, sucked to be that guy.

But the lag was horrible even the sound was sticking

Herr-Berbunch · 10-15-10, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JokerOfFate

I do the same, but I've always got my finger on the Crash dive hotkey.

I got caught off-guard a while back, I left the game on by mistake

next thing I know a Task force appears and opens fire on me luckily I had the sound on.

I fire a salvo off and crash dive, they all hit but 2 were duds and the third one missed every ship in the task force and hit a fishing boat about 10km away

, sucked to be that guy

Crash dive using TC - it'll catch you out one day!

K-61 · 10-15-10, 02:36 PM

To clarify: At or below 128 is the way to go in order to miss contacts and air cover? I've been using 256 in enemy areas and getting lots of contacts. If 128 is the gospel, then I will switch down, but not until I have a definitive yea or nay from on high [Jimbuna level].

Jimbuna · 10-15-10, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by K-61

To clarify: At or below 128 is the way to go in order to miss contacts and air cover? I've been using 256 in enemy areas and getting lots of contacts. If 128 is the gospel, then I will switch down, but not until I have a definitive yea or nay from on high [Jimbuna level].

I can definitively say that after thousands of hours of testing GWX3.0 by a dedicated and skilled/observant team of testers it was found that anything above x128 could detrimentally impact on the rendering of aircraft in particular.

I can only presume this is also the case with the stock/vanilla game.

If you DO NOT want to miss anything that is going on around you my advice would be to make x128 your highest level of tc.

When I am playing the mod there are the odd occasions when I'll go as high as x2048 but that is usually when I'm mid-Atlantic and in a hurry to get to the hunting grounds off the US east coast for example.

K-61 · 10-15-10, 03:05 PM

Thank you, Jimbuna. I shall now alter my TC setting to 128 when in or near enemy areas. It'll be an interesting experiment to see if my contacts increase while running at 128, though it will double my real world game playing time.

Philipp_Thomsen · 10-18-10, 09:02 PM

So Im the only one to cross the Atlantic at 8192x tc?

K-61 · 10-20-10, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

So Im the only one to cross the Atlantic at 8192x tc?

My machine can handle 8192 but I seldom use it only in areas where I am absolutely certain I will not miss enemy contacts, which means very few areas once away from my base.

VONHARRIS · 10-21-10, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

So Im the only one to cross the Atlantic at 8192x tc?

No , I cross the Atlantic at 4096 TC. Not a problem with contacts. Of course when an enemy is spotted I have set the TC to drop to 1 immediately. Same does when radar detectors are available. When a radar warning appears TC drops to 1.

How can you achive a 8192 TC?

Sailor Steve · 10-21-10, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by VONHARRIS

No , I cross the Atlantic at 4096 TC. Not a problem with contacts. Of course when an enemy is spotted I have set the TC to drop to 1 immediately. Same does when radar detectors are available. When a radar warning appears TC drops to 1.

Except for all the air contacts you miss.

Quote:

How can you achive a 8192 TC?

SH3 Commander.

Legionary74 · 10-21-10, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Philipp_Thomsen

So Im the only one to cross the Atlantic at 8192x tc?

Not at all, Im always at 8192

10-15-10, 02:36 PM	#8
K-61 Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 795 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	To clarify: At or below 128 is the way to go in order to miss contacts and air cover? I've been using 256 in enemy areas and getting lots of contacts. If 128 is the gospel, then I will switch down, but not until I have a definitive yea or nay from on high [Jimbuna level]. __________________

10-15-10, 03:05 PM	#10
K-61 Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ontario Posts: 795 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Thank you, Jimbuna. I shall now alter my TC setting to 128 when in or near enemy areas. It'll be an interesting experiment to see if my contacts increase while running at 128, though it will double my real world game playing time. __________________

10-18-10, 09:02 PM	#11
Philipp_Thomsen Old Gang Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Drunk at the whorehouse Posts: 2,278 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	So Im the only one to cross the Atlantic at 8192x tc? __________________ To each his own

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10-15-10, 09:16 AM	#1
SilentSnake Seaman Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 38 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Its aug 1940 in my game and im sailing from lorient although my base has only just been changed because of the recent fall of france. Ive got CG85 and every time i start going down a convoy appears and i have to end up going back up to intercept it burning valuable fuel. I guess best tactic is to just sit their and wait for the convoys to appear. Just another question on compression though. Im using the GWX mod and whenever a big convoy is close to my sub the compression slows drastically. Does that happen to you guys?

10-15-10, 09:33 AM	#2
frau kaleun Rear Admiral Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Skyri--oh who are we kidding, I'm probably at Lowe's. Again. Posts: 12,706 Downloads: 168 Uploads: 0	Unless you've edited the default settings for how TC works, whenever you spot a convoy (or any other vessel) it should automatically drop out of a higher TC and back to real time or at least a much lower TC. So, yeah, if you are running at 128 (or higher TC) and a convoy comes within range, you should drop back to a lower TC. That's not to be confused with the "lag" that sometimes happens when a lot of activity is going on and there are many units being rendered in a small area, like a convoy appearing in range or when you're in a crowded harbor area going to and from base. Things can get a little laggy or choppy then, it sometimes happens to me especially when I attack a convoy and all hell breaks loose. My first time sailing into Lorient the lag got so bad that the screen completely froze up several times - no CTD and I was able to dock OK but I was really nervous. I start patrols from sea now, the French bases may be a little more than my system can handle without killing the framerate.

10-15-10, 11:19 AM	#4
CherryHarbey Engineer Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Derby, UK Posts: 200 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 0	Yes, I seem to be constantly fighting the temptation to change my behaviour when the frame rate drops. Realism tells me that my dip for a hydrophone listen isn't due for an hour, the bad voices try to tell me to dip now and find a big convoy. Have to keep telling myself that I would only be cheating myself.