Goose eggs... Common?

tomoose · 10-01-10, 01:49 PM

...on how you want to play the game. As mentioned you can use the "look into the future" method to find out where major activity will occur or you can use the old Mark 1 Brainbox and figure out where the merchant routes might be given "existing" maps/routes etc.

Personally, I have also experienced patrols where I return to base empty handed to refuel and go out again. I consider this realistic and a part of the RSRD gameplay. Yes it's frustrating but when you do come across a target it makes it all the more imperative to sink the bugger, LOL.

Armistead · 10-01-10, 02:38 PM

Why docked, you'll notice the lil movies that play explaining what the higher ups know. The US almost always knew what the JP's were doing since we could read their code. These briefings why at dock basically tell you what's coming up and where the action will be. However, usually your patrol isn't near where the upcoming action is.

This map is a great tool. Look at the invasions of the Philippines at the start of the war. The map shows all the invasion forces, their paths, ect. All of these are in the game. It's amazing the work Lurker put into RSRD. Best to resize and print this map, because it works with RSRD to perfection. Take the Java invasion. It's hard to see on this, but if you know where Jolo is near Tawi Tawi, this is where the large Java invasion fleet starts. There is a small shipping lane near Jolo. This is probably the largest convoy in RSRD and it path comes by Jolo.
Talk about raising cain, catch a 60 ship plus convoy in shallow water with lil islands to run around you can have some fun.

You see where the other Java forces leave Hainan. See the one path they take, but notice where they split near Sumatra. I won't get into details, but if you can catch the large group before they split up, you'll have enough ships to bring your PC to a crawl. One group heads to the right of Merak, the others more east.

Look at the invasion fleet coming from Palau to north of the San Bern. Notice it states Seaplanes. This group has some Chistose plane carriers. You don't see them often, so it's fun to attack..Jan 12, north of San Bern.

fastfed · 10-02-10, 12:16 AM

LOL I am on my 6th patrol and I sunk a TOTAL OF 4 Merchants.. And saw only 5 Merchants.. I have gone to EVERY single spot that HQ tells me to go to. I patrol everywhere I am supposed.. I am surprised they still allow me to go out, lol.. This is PATHETIC! I suck at this for some reason.. I think I might have to just stick with TWO and skip out on RSRD for now.. I just don't understand how I can go out for months, patrol the areas it tells me to, patrol area's on the map posted here and only run into airplanes EVERY hour on the surface..

NorthBeach · 10-02-10, 01:29 AM

Ah, therein lies part of your problem. Ignore the pinheads. Patrol the area they send you to, initially, if you feel you must. But, once your patrol time has elapsed (the icon has gone gray), feel free to give them the raspberry and go hunting. I tend to smile benignly as they hand me my orders. Then file them in the same cabinet in which I keep the tubes I took from Sparky's radio.

Armistead · 10-02-10, 04:29 AM

As NB said, going to the patrol zone is a basic waste of time with RSRD, although it does get you close sometimes.

Take this other map that shows movements of warships. I decided to look for something different other than the usual several large Java convoys.
If you look carefully a Main Body Cardiv leaves Palau for Kendari and shows it arriving on Feb 21. I decided to see if I could find it and decided on an ambush point between the smaller land masses where it turns west towards Kendari. The lower land mass would be Buka on your game map. I've never gone against this group, so why not. Sure enough on Feb 17 I get a contact. Finally able to ID the Hiryu, Soryu and another carrier. Several other CA's, but the fun will be it has a double ring of escorts, about 18 total. I paused after spotting it and will take it on later.

This is also the same Carrier group that invades the Indain Ocean later. If I chase it long enough it would eventually make it to Kendari and probably vanish or despawn so to speak..simply how ships dock in port in the game. Eventually it should spawn outside of Kendari and head to the Indian Ocean, so I could probably set up another attack. I would chose an ambush point in the little strait above Timor, don't see how I could miss it there.

Tell you what, give me an upcoming date and I'll play your Admiral and send you flash messages vectoring you to possible intercept points...bet I can make life interesting for ya...

fastfed · 10-02-10, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

As NB said, going to the patrol zone is a basic waste of time with RSRD, although it does get you close sometimes.

Take this other map that shows movements of warships. I decided to look for something different other than the usual several large Java convoys.
If you look carefully a Main Body Cardiv leaves Palau for Kendari and shows it arriving on Feb 21. I decided to see if I could find it and decided on an ambush point between the smaller land masses where it turns west towards Kendari. The lower land mass would be Buka on your game map. I've never gone against this group, so why not. Sure enough on Feb 17 I get a contact. Finally able to ID the Hiryu, Soryu and another carrier. Several other CA's, but the fun will be it has a double ring of escorts, about 18 total. I paused after spotting it and will take it on later.

This is also the same Carrier group that invades the Indain Ocean later. If I chase it long enough it would eventually make it to Kendari and probably vanish or despawn so to speak..simply how ships dock in port in the game. Eventually it should spawn outside of Kendari and head to the Indian Ocean, so I could probably set up another attack. I would chose an ambush point in the little strait above Timor, don't see how I could miss it there.

Tell you what, give me an upcoming date and I'll play your Admiral and send you flash messages vectoring you to possible intercept points...bet I can make life interesting for ya...

OK cool.. Im gonna play in about 10-15 minutes.. I'll let you know where and when I am

fastfed · 10-02-10, 03:50 PM

OK!! here goes Admiral.. I am sailing from Brisbane and its July 22nd, 1942.

I am still sailing with the Porpoise class so fuel is not so great.

LOL, I think they don't care about me, as I never have anything to come back with, I am always coming back dry

Thanks Admiral.

SurfnSea · 10-02-10, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by fastfed

LOL I am on my 6th patrol and I sunk a TOTAL OF 4 Merchants.. And saw only 5 Merchants.. I have gone to EVERY single spot that HQ tells me to go to. I patrol everywhere I am supposed.. I am surprised they still allow me to go out, lol.. This is PATHETIC! I suck at this for some reason.. I think I might have to just stick with TWO and skip out on RSRD for now.. I just don't understand how I can go out for months, patrol the areas it tells me to, patrol area's on the map posted here and only run into airplanes EVERY hour on the surface..

I get a hunch that once you find a convoy there won't be much left when you get done with it. Nothing worse for a convoy's survivability than a PO'd sub captain. Pity the poor convoy.

10-01-10, 01:49 PM	#1
tomoose Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 930 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	Depends.. ...on how you want to play the game. As mentioned you can use the "look into the future" method to find out where major activity will occur or you can use the old Mark 1 Brainbox and figure out where the merchant routes might be given "existing" maps/routes etc. Personally, I have also experienced patrols where I return to base empty handed to refuel and go out again. I consider this realistic and a part of the RSRD gameplay. Yes it's frustrating but when you do come across a target it makes it all the more imperative to sink the bugger, LOL.

10-01-10, 02:38 PM	#2
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Why docked, you'll notice the lil movies that play explaining what the higher ups know. The US almost always knew what the JP's were doing since we could read their code. These briefings why at dock basically tell you what's coming up and where the action will be. However, usually your patrol isn't near where the upcoming action is. This map is a great tool. Look at the invasions of the Philippines at the start of the war. The map shows all the invasion forces, their paths, ect. All of these are in the game. It's amazing the work Lurker put into RSRD. Best to resize and print this map, because it works with RSRD to perfection. Take the Java invasion. It's hard to see on this, but if you know where Jolo is near Tawi Tawi, this is where the large Java invasion fleet starts. There is a small shipping lane near Jolo. This is probably the largest convoy in RSRD and it path comes by Jolo. Talk about raising cain, catch a 60 ship plus convoy in shallow water with lil islands to run around you can have some fun. You see where the other Java forces leave Hainan. See the one path they take, but notice where they split near Sumatra. I won't get into details, but if you can catch the large group before they split up, you'll have enough ships to bring your PC to a crawl. One group heads to the right of Merak, the others more east. Look at the invasion fleet coming from Palau to north of the San Bern. Notice it states Seaplanes. This group has some Chistose plane carriers. You don't see them often, so it's fun to attack..Jan 12, north of San Bern. Last edited by Armistead; 10-01-10 at 02:53 PM.

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10-02-10, 12:16 AM	#3
fastfed Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 786 Downloads: 254 Uploads: 0	LOL I am on my 6th patrol and I sunk a TOTAL OF 4 Merchants.. And saw only 5 Merchants.. I have gone to EVERY single spot that HQ tells me to go to. I patrol everywhere I am supposed.. I am surprised they still allow me to go out, lol.. This is PATHETIC! I suck at this for some reason.. I think I might have to just stick with TWO and skip out on RSRD for now.. I just don't understand how I can go out for months, patrol the areas it tells me to, patrol area's on the map posted here and only run into airplanes EVERY hour on the surface..

10-02-10, 01:29 AM	#4
NorthBeach Torpedoman Join Date: May 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 112 Downloads: 216 Uploads: 0	Ah, therein lies part of your problem. Ignore the pinheads. Patrol the area they send you to, initially, if you feel you must. But, once your patrol time has elapsed (the icon has gone gray), feel free to give them the raspberry and go hunting. I tend to smile benignly as they hand me my orders. Then file them in the same cabinet in which I keep the tubes I took from Sparky's radio.

10-02-10, 04:29 AM	#5
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	As NB said, going to the patrol zone is a basic waste of time with RSRD, although it does get you close sometimes. Take this other map that shows movements of warships. I decided to look for something different other than the usual several large Java convoys. If you look carefully a Main Body Cardiv leaves Palau for Kendari and shows it arriving on Feb 21. I decided to see if I could find it and decided on an ambush point between the smaller land masses where it turns west towards Kendari. The lower land mass would be Buka on your game map. I've never gone against this group, so why not. Sure enough on Feb 17 I get a contact. Finally able to ID the Hiryu, Soryu and another carrier. Several other CA's, but the fun will be it has a double ring of escorts, about 18 total. I paused after spotting it and will take it on later. This is also the same Carrier group that invades the Indain Ocean later. If I chase it long enough it would eventually make it to Kendari and probably vanish or despawn so to speak..simply how ships dock in port in the game. Eventually it should spawn outside of Kendari and head to the Indian Ocean, so I could probably set up another attack. I would chose an ambush point in the little strait above Timor, don't see how I could miss it there. Tell you what, give me an upcoming date and I'll play your Admiral and send you flash messages vectoring you to possible intercept points...bet I can make life interesting for ya...

10-02-10, 03:50 PM	#7
fastfed Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 786 Downloads: 254 Uploads: 0	OK!! here goes Admiral.. I am sailing from Brisbane and its July 22nd, 1942. I am still sailing with the Porpoise class so fuel is not so great. LOL, I think they don't care about me, as I never have anything to come back with, I am always coming back dry Thanks Admiral.