Favorite President ?

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ.

what most people dont know is that lincoln wasnt as big an abolitionist as propaganda has inferred. Lincoln basically banned slavery as Punishment to the south for breaking off in the first place. The south's entire economy was pretty much based on slaves. Lincoln didntlike slavery, sure , but he didnt go out and start the war bbecause of it. it came towards the end. He also imprisoned anyone speaking out against him, calling them "a threat to national security".

Aaaaand, here we go again. There are a thousand reasons that can be discussed concerning that period, but an uninformed flat statement like that one is just looking for a fight. This is a thread about your favorites, not why someone was less than some people think he was.

If you want to start a Civil War thread, start one. Don't turn this into one by launching an attack on a president someone mentioned. That has happened too many times here.

[Stealth Hunter]

Both Roosevelts are tied for me.

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Aaaaand, here we go again.

I was going to make a wager in the beginning as to how long it would take to get to this again. Every time we talk about US presidents it seems to go there.

[CaptainMattJ.]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Aaaaand, here we go again. There are a thousand reasons that can be discussed concerning that period, but an uninformed flat statement like that one is just looking for a fight. This is a thread about your favorites, not why someone was less than some people think he was.

If you want to start a Civil War thread, start one. Don't turn this into one by launching an attack on a president someone mentioned. That has happened too many times here.

attack? hows that an attack? i wasnt putting down lincoln. i merely stated an extra little fact about him. Lincoln was still a good president. better then most, in fact. But people shouldnt put him higher then he was. he was still a great president, but i thought some people should know that if they didnt already.

seems you took that the wrong way. it may have been strongly worded, sure, but not an attack.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ.

attack? hows that an attack? i wasnt putting down lincoln. i merely stated an extra little fact about him. Lincoln was still a good president. better then most, in fact. But people shouldnt put him higher then he was. he was still a great president, but i thought some people should know that if they didnt already.

seems you took that the wrong way. it may have been strongly worded, sure, but not an attack.

My apology then. We've had more than one 'President' thread turn into a major batlle over the civil war, and it usually started with someone 'explaining' why Lincoln was really the cause of all the country's woes. I agree he was an extreme politician and knew how to manipulate people to get what he wanted, but I also feel that what he wanted was for the best. This might give you some insight as to why I reacted the way I did.
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=171933