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Old 09-20-10, 01:33 AM   #1
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YEP!! It really sucks!! I don't go to my "grid area" any more either.. I don't know why the GWX team couldn't of added (XXX renown for getting to grid, XX renown for 24 hour patrol, and XXX renown for making it home)
I think GWX started out as a few people getting together to create something that reflected the way they, personally, wanted to play SH3. A lot of it had to do with making it more realistic and historically accurate, but with something like renown that didn't exist in any analogous quantifiable way in RL - it was probably just a matter of personal choice. And it's easily moddable, just a matter of changing a couple lines in the basic.cfg file. You can give yourself as little or as much renown as you like for completing those objectives, or none at all. The GWX team chose none, but it's not set in stone for every player.

As I said above, I put it back in simply because it gave me a solid reason to obey my initial patrol orders, something the game doesn't otherwise require, and lessens the temptation to go rogue once I leave base. Others have made the argument that one should even increase the rewards as the war progresses, since just reaching one's grid and surviving for any length of time became more and more difficult as Allied technology improved and ASW tactics turned many a crew's first patrol into their last.
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Old 09-20-10, 01:43 AM   #2
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Renown - that is one of the things I was referring to. As Frau Kaleun just said, it is not something that can be measured, or in any real way USED in a historical setting. For myself, I have gotten to the point that I choose to find a Kaleun I like or think I can do better than, give myself his starting rank and the crew and equipment of his ship, and go to his assigned patrol area - and go from there. Awards I give based on RL criteria, rank ditto - as you can tell I am one of the hard-core ones!

But just to make myself a tad more human - I STILL haven't really gotten the hang of manual TDC - and in reality that was actually the job of the I WO and his crew - the Kaleun gave the input but didn't actually run the TDC etc, so I kinda justify my lack of knowledge there. So I still have auto-targetting on most of the time.

Of course, I am fully aware that I SHOULD know how as every Kaleun was once a I WO!!!
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Old 09-20-10, 01:52 AM   #3
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Renown - that is one of the things I was referring to. As Frau Kaleun just said, it is not something that can be measured, or in any real way USED in a historical setting. For myself, I have gotten to the point that I choose to find a Kaleun I like or think I can do better than, give myself his starting rank and the crew and equipment of his ship, and go to his assigned patrol area - and go from there. Awards I give based on RL criteria, rank ditto - as you can tell I am one of the hard-core ones!
I've tinkered with the values required for medals and such, because I felt I was getting them too soon to be "realistic" - which basically just means that it felt "wrong" to be getting something for what seemed like too little in the way of accomplishment given what I typically accomplish per patrol with the realism options where they are right now. I mean, I finished my last patrol in August 1940 and the game gave me swords AND diamonds to my KC with oak leaves and I'm like, lolwut?

I went into my career files and took them away once I exited the game, but I'll probably get them again if I do anything worthwhile at all on the current patrol. So I will either adjust all the values upwards again for my next career, or else amp up the realism a bit.

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Of course, I am fully aware that I SHOULD know how as every Kaleun was once a I WO!!!
Not true, when I joined up they gave me my own boat right off. What can I say... they just knew.

EDIT: Okay it's like 3 AM here, STOP MAKING ME POST THINGS.
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Old 09-20-10, 01:54 AM   #4
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