Running out of compressed air..

WernherVonTrapp · 09-16-10, 06:20 PM

I TYPE TOO SLOW REPLY:
If I remember correctly, and many times I don't, the ballast tanks were located in sections Fore, Midship and Aft. The air was pumped into the tanks, forcing the water (ballast) out to maintain the boat's buoyancy and/or depth. If you received damage to the hull or superstructure, it might be possible that your ballast tanks became damaged. What about your dive planes, they intact?

Bubblehead, I've noticed that too on rare occasion, when the OD calls out the compressed air status. I've noticed that it usually happens only when surfaced. Can the air be replaced effectively when submerged?

Armistead · 09-16-10, 06:53 PM

No...air can't be replaced submerged.

Diopos · 09-16-10, 09:30 PM

My "impression" on compressed air consumption:
1. Blowing ballast (obviously)
2. Changing depth while at at zero (or very low) speed.

Now from what Armistead said he was submerged (probably avoiding surface vessel) so the loss of his compressed air seems to be a combination of case 2 (above) and damage/hull integrity ...

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Armistead · 09-16-10, 11:50 PM

Actually my speed varied, but batteries were damaged and I had to go reverse since I had a out of control bow dive. So basically I could hold depth at a yo yo between 100 to 150 ft. Had one escort make a pass, so I had to go forward to get depth which took me down fast, but pulled out by flank reverse and blowing tank once.

Had 80% compressed air after blowing tanks. I stayed reversed at 3kts to escape, took about 10 hrs and compressed air ran out...surfaced later, so no problems...

Bubblehead1980 · 09-20-10, 03:18 PM

Update:

During an evasion last night(Balao, Jan 1944) I dove to 500 feet and leveled off to evade enemy DD's after an attack.After ordering surfacing 5 hours later, noticed my compressed air was at 87%.Never blew ballast or took any damage, no charges were even remotely close.Game does accoutn for compressed air usage.

TMO
TMO update "beta" patch
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Armistead · 09-20-10, 03:43 PM

I agree, what I find rather confusing or better amazing is how it uses it.
I lost all of mine in 10 hours, rather quickly.

I wonder if you use more trying to change to a shallower depth over and over, such as you do in a out of control dive. Maybe it's better to not keep hitting the depth icon or periscope depth option over and over.

I assumed compressed air could be replinished. I cut silent running off a few times, but I don't think silent running deals with issues. It appears even with it on your crew will do repairs, even loud repairs as it shows pumps removing water after bulkheads are fixed, ect.

I've never seen detailed explanations on how these systems work within the game or how they relate to each other. Technically if you lose one system, it could have dire consquences on others, not sure the game is that complex, but you can lose compressed air quickly trying to control a dive.

Bubblehead1980 · 09-20-10, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

I agree, what I find rather confusing or better amazing is how it uses it.
I lost all of mine in 10 hours, rather quickly.

I wonder if you use more trying to change to a shallower depth over and over, such as you do in a out of control dive. Maybe it's better to not keep hitting the depth icon or periscope depth option over and over.

I assumed compressed air could be replinished. I cut silent running off a few times, but I don't think silent running deals with issues. It appears even with it on your crew will do repairs, even loud repairs as it shows pumps removing water after bulkheads are fixed, ect.

I've never seen detailed explanations on how these systems work within the game or how they relate to each other. Technically if you lose one system, it could have dire consquences on others, not sure the game is that complex, but you can lose compressed air quickly trying to control a dive.

Sub does use a lot of your air when having to fight to change and maintain depths.Compressed air can only be replenished on surface and if compressor is in working order.Talk about a dire consquence.Imagine getting your compressor destroyed then taking on water, fighting for hours, running your compressed air reserve down to nil and making it out alive, only to be unable to replenish your compressed air reserve

09-16-10, 06:20 PM	#1
WernherVonTrapp Admiral Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Now, alot farther from NYC. Posts: 2,228 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	I TYPE TOO SLOW REPLY: If I remember correctly, and many times I don't, the ballast tanks were located in sections Fore, Midship and Aft. The air was pumped into the tanks, forcing the water (ballast) out to maintain the boat's buoyancy and/or depth. If you received damage to the hull or superstructure, it might be possible that your ballast tanks became damaged. What about your dive planes, they intact? Bubblehead, I've noticed that too on rare occasion, when the OD calls out the compressed air status. I've noticed that it usually happens only when surfaced. Can the air be replaced effectively when submerged? __________________ "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." -Miyamoto Musashi ------------------------------------------------------- "What is truth?" -Pontius Pilate

09-16-10, 09:30 PM	#3
Diopos Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Athens, the original one. Posts: 1,226 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	My "impression" on compressed air consumption: 1. Blowing ballast (obviously) 2. Changing depth while at at zero (or very low) speed. Now from what Armistead said he was submerged (probably avoiding surface vessel) so the loss of his compressed air seems to be a combination of case 2 (above) and damage/hull integrity ... . __________________ - Oh God! They're all over the place! CRASH DIVE!!! - Ehm... we can't honey. We're in the car right now. - What?... er right... Doesn't matter! We'll give it a try anyway!

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09-16-10, 06:53 PM	#2
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	No...air can't be replaced submerged.

09-16-10, 11:50 PM	#4
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Actually my speed varied, but batteries were damaged and I had to go reverse since I had a out of control bow dive. So basically I could hold depth at a yo yo between 100 to 150 ft. Had one escort make a pass, so I had to go forward to get depth which took me down fast, but pulled out by flank reverse and blowing tank once. Had 80% compressed air after blowing tanks. I stayed reversed at 3kts to escape, took about 10 hrs and compressed air ran out...surfaced later, so no problems...

09-20-10, 03:18 PM	#5
Bubblehead1980 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Florida USA Posts: 7,129 Downloads: 605 Uploads: 44	Update: During an evasion last night(Balao, Jan 1944) I dove to 500 feet and leveled off to evade enemy DD's after an attack.After ordering surfacing 5 hours later, noticed my compressed air was at 87%.Never blew ballast or took any damage, no charges were even remotely close.Game does accoutn for compressed air usage. TMO TMO update "beta" patch RSRD

09-20-10, 03:43 PM	#6
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I agree, what I find rather confusing or better amazing is how it uses it. I lost all of mine in 10 hours, rather quickly. I wonder if you use more trying to change to a shallower depth over and over, such as you do in a out of control dive. Maybe it's better to not keep hitting the depth icon or periscope depth option over and over. I assumed compressed air could be replinished. I cut silent running off a few times, but I don't think silent running deals with issues. It appears even with it on your crew will do repairs, even loud repairs as it shows pumps removing water after bulkheads are fixed, ect. I've never seen detailed explanations on how these systems work within the game or how they relate to each other. Technically if you lose one system, it could have dire consquences on others, not sure the game is that complex, but you can lose compressed air quickly trying to control a dive.