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Old 09-14-10, 08:27 AM   #1
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If you found that to be a good read, your standards are very low.

This is completely retarded and just bizarre and disjointed. It's another attempt to turn Obama into this "ooh, scary African HUSSEIN Kenyan witch doctor come to slit the throats of white babies."

If you weren't completely retarded like Mr. D'Souza, you may read Obama Sr.'s paper he mentions and think that it's a legitimate critique of the Kenyan system of land use, education and foreign investment. But If you did happen to be bug-screwing insane, you'd say something like:

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Even more remarkably, there has been virtually no reporting on a document that seems directly relevant to what the junior Obama is doing in the White House,"
But, if you weren't bug-screwing insane like Mr. D'Souza, you would have found after a brief dance with teh Google that Politico had reported on this 2 years ago: http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.c...D20AC776ED4E67

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"the U.S. is being ruled according to the dreams of a Luo tribesman of the 1950s...[a] philandering, inebriated African socialist."
"Fear the drunk black man, wild eyed and coming for your women and children!", right, D'Souza?

He then goes on to start pulling random events and happenings together...NASA, mosques, banks.... in some kind of mad screed, trying to grasp at disparate straws in an attempt to unravel the conspiracy, a la the pink faced nitwit Father Coughlin....err...I mean Glenn Beck.


D'Souza's an idiot.
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Old 09-14-10, 10:06 AM   #2
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I find Obama's lack of orientation or lack of sense of realism in some areas bizarr, surreal, and worrying, in other areas it is self-contradictory. Damage is being done that way. With a political agenda by him, deriving from present-based circumstances, I cannot explain that to a satisfying degree, and if I do not want to simply accuse him to just following a policy of appeasing Muslim nations, oil suppliers and national lobby groups of the left side of the spectrum, then I am left with assuming personal, intrinsic drives or motivations basing in his personality and biography. And this is the level the article is aiming at. So I conclude that it may make sense.

At least it makes more sense than some of the emotional rant the topic already has caused again so far.

Everybody is driven by needs, drives, motivations and experiences he already made. Referring to them, behavior and priorities of a person often can be explained (though explanation and excuse are two different things, mind you). and Obama seems to have set the centre of gravity of Amrican interests more outside America's interest than any president before him, as I remember. And I question that all of that is just altruism. I think at least some of it is just foolishness and ignoring unfriendly and/or longterm facts that do not match his "vision". I also do not see that he cares for who pays for the bills he stockpiles on his desk.
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Old 09-14-10, 10:33 AM   #3
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This is completely retarded and just bizarre and disjointed. It's another attempt to turn Obama into this "ooh, scary African HUSSEIN Kenyan witch doctor come to slit the throats of white babies."
Wow! Did you really get all of that from this article? I missed that paragraph entirely.
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Old 09-14-10, 10:38 AM   #4
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Wow! Did you really get all of that from this article? I missed that paragraph entirely.
That's a common Dem tactic. They believe that opposition to their grand design just has to be racist, every time.
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Even American Conservative magazine finds this article ridiculous:

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...conservative pundits and writers such as D’Souza have been indulging in so much evidence-free, ideological babbling for the last two years that many of them now seem convinced that this babbling is actually extremely serious, insightful commentary.
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Old 09-14-10, 08:11 PM   #6
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That's a common Dem tactic. They believe that opposition to their grand design just has to be racist, every time.
No it's a common Publican tactic. Everytime
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Old 09-14-10, 11:16 PM   #7
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That article is reflecting the writer opinion or rather his political standing(views) in regard with Obama

Now I don't see Forbes being sued over defamation libel.

It's important to be and to stay critical when you read something. It doesn't mean one has to be a skeptic but to remain objective. Because exaggerated interpretation of facts and twisted truth may be imbedded to force a certain view to be favored by the readers. And lots of what is written is a matter of mere personal opinion.

For one Wiki tells US only has oil reserve that would last a mere 8 years when exploited.

Now oil is depleting and depleting fast. 21st century will be known to be the end of oil age. Oil prices are going to go sky rocketing before the world really exhausts all of its oil reserves. And what do you think would happen after that if US military equipments, ships, planes and other military machines are deprived of oil not to mention the state of the economy and civilian in general? Those 8 years worth of oil reserve would be crucial to extend US dominance and control for some years before another source of energy can be made reliable.

US has already got enough oil supply from the Saudis, Kuwait and now potentially Iraq so why would it need to steal some more oil from Brazilian coast? There's no free lunch in this world so I'm sure US got something back in return for the financial aid.

You're lucky that you have almost all of your oil reserve unexploited.
In my third world country the people are put under pressure with the increasing oil prices with so little of our average income and the government is already talking about limiting certain oil consumption because it can no longer afford to maintain its subsidy. For heaven sake though we are producing much natural gas, we are having difficulty fulfilling local demands because much of the gas goes to China and Japan for a very low price and over extended period of contract. As far as I know much of the domestic oil gets refined in Singapore and got imported back.
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Great article, truth hurts eh fellas?
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Wow! Did you really get all of that from this article? I missed that paragraph entirely.
I believe my second quote sums it up nicely.
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I believe my second quote sums it up nicely.
This?

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If you weren't completely retarded like Mr. D'Souza, you may read Obama Sr.'s paper he mentions and think that it's a legitimate critique of the Kenyan system of land use, education and foreign investment. But If you did happen to be bug-screwing insane, you'd say something like:
I believe he was tying in Obamas book entitled Dreams of my Father. Also, do you now for sure that Mr. D'Souza is in fact retarded?
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This?
No, this: "the U.S. is being ruled according to the dreams of a Luo tribesman of the 1950s...[a] philandering, inebriated African socialist."
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Oh, Dinesh D'Souza. Saw the guy speaking a couple of years ago, it was...not so impressive.

You tend to get bogged down, peering into yawning chasms of stuff like this.

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In an eerie conclusion, Obama writes that "I sat at my father's grave and spoke to him through Africa's red soil." In a sense, through the earth itself, he communes with his father and receives his father's spirit. Obama takes on his father's struggle, not by recovering his body but by embracing his cause. He decides that where Obama Sr. failed, he will succeed. Obama Sr.'s hatred of the colonial system becomes Obama Jr.'s hatred; his botched attempt to set the world right defines his son's objective. Through a kind of sacramental rite at the family tomb, the father's struggle becomes the son's birthright.
Crikey.
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No, this: "the U.S. is being ruled according to the dreams of a Luo tribesman of the 1950s...[a] philandering, inebriated African socialist."
Well that is a stretch however we are a product of our upbringing. Obama spent a better part of his youth globe trotting. Certainly these travels influence who, what and why in his decision making.
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