Record U.S. Arms Deal With Saudis Advances

Zachstar · 09-13-10, 01:40 AM

We need this. Badly. A 60 billion infusion into the industry will cause a ripple effect that may help many states recover.

Gerald · 09-13-10, 05:18 AM

extra money, if you can spare them so that their defense does not suffer.

Skybird · 09-13-10, 06:06 AM

In congruency with Obama'S attempt to relativise Western-Israeli superiority in the region and to appease a potent oil-supplier who gives a rat's a$$ for human rights. This 30 + 30 billion dollar deal will shift the strategic powerbalance in the region.

Preventing iranian nuclear weapons it will not. It will just let them look more acceptable, because "one has prepared for them in advance", hasn't one...!?

AngusJS · 09-13-10, 06:51 AM

So much for human rights. The Saudis don't deserve so much as a pop gun.

Bilge_Rat · 09-13-10, 09:04 AM

There have been many US-Saudi arms deal in the past, it won't affect the balance in the region.

You guys are seeing this all wrong. It is not a favour the US are doing the Saudis, but the other way around. The Saudis are choking on Oil dollars, they know they have to do the occasional bit to help out the US economy. They are always buying stuff they don't really need to buy some goodwill.

Platapus · 09-13-10, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AngusJS

So much for human rights. The Saudis don't deserve so much as a pop gun.

The United States has traditionally been afflicted with human-rights-blindness when arms sales are at stake.

Zachstar · 09-13-10, 08:05 PM

Denying them the sale due to "Human Rights" Issues will just cause them to buy them from areas that don't treat human rights the same as we do.

60 billion that can get aerospace factories back up to full speed or 60 billion to enrich Russia or China? Pick directly based on that.

Takeda Shingen · 09-13-10, 08:26 PM

Unlike the Israeli arrangement for the state-of-the-art JSF, they're actually paying for them. As Bilge Rat said, the Saudi air force is a practially a joy-riding school for the wealthy, and to echo TLAM, let them have it.

SteamWake · 09-13-10, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Zachstar

We need this. Badly. A 60 billion infusion into the industry will cause a ripple effect that may help many states recover.

So they actually intend to pay for them?

I see alont of 'valued at' and 'expected' type wording but somehow I suspect that they wont simply write a 60 billion dollar check up front.

09-13-10, 01:40 AM	#1
Zachstar Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana Posts: 1,956 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	We need this. Badly. A 60 billion infusion into the industry will cause a ripple effect that may help many states recover. __________________

09-13-10, 05:18 AM	#2
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	It is certainly good to get a bit, extra money, if you can spare them so that their defense does not suffer. __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

09-13-10, 06:06 AM	#3
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,712 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	In congruency with Obama'S attempt to relativise Western-Israeli superiority in the region and to appease a potent oil-supplier who gives a rat's a$$ for human rights. This 30 + 30 billion dollar deal will shift the strategic powerbalance in the region. Preventing iranian nuclear weapons it will not. It will just let them look more acceptable, because "one has prepared for them in advance", hasn't one...!? __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-13-10, 09:04 AM	#5
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,856 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	There have been many US-Saudi arms deal in the past, it won't affect the balance in the region. You guys are seeing this all wrong. It is not a favour the US are doing the Saudis, but the other way around. The Saudis are choking on Oil dollars, they know they have to do the occasional bit to help out the US economy. They are always buying stuff they don't really need to buy some goodwill. __________________

09-13-10, 08:05 PM	#7
Zachstar Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Shreveport, Louisiana Posts: 1,956 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Denying them the sale due to "Human Rights" Issues will just cause them to buy them from areas that don't treat human rights the same as we do. 60 billion that can get aerospace factories back up to full speed or 60 billion to enrich Russia or China? Pick directly based on that. __________________

09-13-10, 06:51 AM	#4
AngusJS Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 746 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	So much for human rights. The Saudis don't deserve so much as a pop gun.

09-13-10, 08:26 PM	#8
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Unlike the Israeli arrangement for the state-of-the-art JSF, they're actually paying for them. As Bilge Rat said, the Saudi air force is a practially a joy-riding school for the wealthy, and to echo TLAM, let them have it.

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