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Old 09-06-10, 04:05 PM   #1
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Silverwolf may be the one to go to for advice as well. A lot of his mods do what you're describing.
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Old 09-08-10, 06:26 AM   #2
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Where is the controller linked to the planes ? the one that starts the animation as you dive ?how is it linked to the planes ?

what I managed so far is to rotate the gun backwards and then to lower it in the hull, but the animation loops ingame

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Old 09-08-10, 04:02 PM   #3
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Default AA guns animation



surfacing : the guns come up

Going to periscope depth :



you can see the AA guns lowering themselves into the hull.



underwater : AA gun stowed away !

one gun to check though but it works !!

I copied the bak plane node from the hull with its label, set the parent id of both AA guns to that of the added backplane, set the plane to visible=no, moved it to 0,0,0 so it would be centered and the AAs at their right places.

the view here above is when surfacing the sub : the AAs are there

This I couldn't figure out alone : thanks to Silverwolf and Peabody who told me what to do !

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Old 09-09-10, 06:30 AM   #4
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Default plane animation

where does the bow/rear planes animation come from ?

it's not in the submarine.dat , I can't find their ids in any of the files but for the .zon (damage)

it is also linked to a water interaction node somewhere... where ???

anyone knows ?

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Old 09-09-10, 06:32 AM   #5
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found a WaterSurfaceTransition controller
in the particles !
type 10/-1

seems to activate the particles when the Y value becomes negative thus when submerging !

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Old 09-09-10, 11:03 AM   #6
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found a WaterSurfaceTransition controller in the particles !
type 10/-1

seems to activate the particles when the Y value becomes negative thus when submerging !
I tried to link the anim to the WST controller, no dice : no rotation when submerging.

I tried linking it to the AA node, and the anim to the aa node as well : rotates all the time...

and the planes don't have a WST node or anything similar !!!

what makes the planes rotate when we submerge ?

what controller is it ???


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Old 09-10-10, 01:06 AM   #7
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where does the bow/rear planes animation come from ?

it's not in the submarine.dat , I can't find their ids in any of the files but for the .zon (damage)

it is also linked to a water interaction node somewhere... where ???

anyone knows ?

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How did you determine it is connected to a "water interaction" node?

The animation for the dive planes comes from the subs.sim file. Well that is where the dive plane is defined, where the actual animation comes from I do not know.
Do this:
On your Jyunsen B.sim file go to Unit_Submarine and on the Rear_Diveplane replace the diveplane with
[0]= Japan_FLG.
Now save it and copy to the mods folder, enable it, start a quick mission with the sub on the surface. Your flag will be on the 'wrong' side of the pole. Now without moving the sub just select a depth so the sub will dive and you can watch the flag animate the same way the Diveplane would have.
I don't know if the animation is hardcoded or comes from another file, but as far as the sub is concerned it comes from the .sim file. Where the .sim file gets the information I don't know.

Now of course you can go back and change it back the Rear Diveplanes.

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Old 09-10-10, 02:28 AM   #8
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[QUOTE=peabody;1489374]How did you determine it is connected to a "water interaction" node?
I did not

I found the Water Surface Transition Controller in the particles nodes, it says that when the sub goes below the surface, = depth<0, it starts the particles.

I then tried to link my AA gun animation to that WST controller, and the controller to the A01 node in turn, hoping it would start the animation when I submerge. it did not.

The animation for the dive planes comes from the subs.sim file. Well that is where the dive plane is defined, where the actual animation comes from I do not know.
me neither and it bugs me ! maybe grrr hardcoded grrr ?

Do this:
I will try it

On your Jyunsen B.sim file go to Unit_Submarine and on the Rear_Diveplane replace the diveplane with
[0]= Japan_FLG.
Now save it and copy to the mods folder, enable it, start a quick mission with the sub on the surface. Your flag will be on the 'wrong' side of the pole.
ok
Now without moving the sub just select a depth so the sub will dive and you can watch the flag animate the same way the Diveplane would have.

I don't know if the animation is hardcoded or comes from another file, but as far as the sub is concerned it comes from the .sim file. Where the .sim file gets the information I don't know.
ok I'll look some more unless someone here knows...

Now of course you can go back and change it back the Rear Diveplanes.


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Old 09-10-10, 10:33 AM   #9
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The animation for the dive planes comes from the subs.sim file. Well that is where the dive plane is defined, where the actual animation comes from I do not know.
me neither and it bugs me ! maybe grrr hardcoded grrr ?

Do this:
I will try it

On your Jyunsen B.sim file go to Unit_Submarine and on the Rear_Diveplane replace the diveplane with
[0]= Japan_FLG.
Now save it and copy to the mods folder, enable it, start a quick mission with the sub on the surface. Your flag will be on the 'wrong' side of the pole.
ok
Now without moving the sub just select a depth so the sub will dive and you can watch the flag animate the same way the Diveplane would have.

I don't know if the animation is hardcoded or comes from another file, but as far as the sub is concerned it comes from the .sim file. Where the .sim file gets the information I don't know.
ok I'll look some more unless someone here knows...

What I was getting at is you want to link the guns animation to the diveplanes animation, and as far as the sub is concerned you have found them. They are in the .dat file, the node names are what you put into the .sim file for the diveplanes.



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