SH3 Commander-The Complete Super Deluxe Thallium Commander's Special Ultimate Edition

[CherryHarbey]

First up SH3 Commander is great, thanks JScones!

Is there a limit to the number of extra folders that can be added to the Random folder in SH3 Commander?
I know the human brain is almost hard wired into seeing patterns in random events, but it does seem to me like I keep getting the same selections repeated rather than the full range, hence the question, is it just selecting from the first x folders??

[JScones]

Originally Posted by CherryHarbey

Is there a limit to the number of extra folders that can be added to the Random folder in SH3 Commander?

Nup, no limit. Go wild!

[CherryHarbey]

thanks for the quick response and thanks again foe the excellent mod.

[Tessa]

Hello Jasun!

It's been awhile after starting to play again as you once mentioned, "you're bound and determined to break SHC". The mods I was trying to add at the time (additional ranks) were causing that effect I hope you understood that's never been my intention.

When I downloaded GWX3 and the new SHC I noticed that anytime (and is still doing it, so have had to uninstall for the time being) is that anytime I make any mods to the basic.cfg or en.menu files that when I launch the game via SHC it nukes any additional settings I've added or changed. Tried using the static setting file but same consequence, all changes get nuked. This includes all the additional ranks that we were worked on awhile back, I've added them and run GWX solo and they work fine, start via SHC and they're gone

Does SHC re-write those two files from its own cache or does it just add/modify the existing file without changing other values? I really love the new cargo addition to the ship and name description and would like to start using it again but with all the mods I've made all my work goes down the drain. Is it possible to run SHC without using any options (so no changes are made to those two files above mentioned files) so that it just runs more like an extended logbook? Thanks for any help that you might be able to provide

Sarah

[P_Funk]

So I've encountered a real problem with SH3 commander that I've never had.

I didn't play SH3 for a long time, decided to play again, installed it, GWX, SH3 Commander, while using the steam version (which I never used beforehand) and created a new career. Well that captain died tonight and I decided to start a new one, just in time for Drumbeat. So Dec of 41, a type IX with the number 130.

When I went to create the new career, while the name I chose was created in the SH3 careers directory, none of the other data that SH3Cmdr creates was there. Instead of Dec of 41 I ended up in April, and instead of a IXC I had a IXB with a different number. This seems to be an issue with the steam version since I have searched this thread and a couple hits involved players who use the steam version having the same issue as me.

What I find to be peculiar is that the first time through everything seemed to work just fine, all my details were created, but now its suddenly stopped with me having done nothing to the game files since then.

I'm not sure if there's anyone who has a solution for me. I may just have to go find my long lost hard copy of SH3.

[Pebble Monkey]

Wow the surprises just mount up. Such a great tool.

Started SHIII Commander for my second patrol tonight, and as I hit load i got the following:

TRANSFERS OUT:
Stabsbootsman Herbet Goldbeck - Killed in a bar fight
Matrosenobergefreiter Erich Heisig - Killed by local partisans

I have a feeling that I have a crew of troublemakers here

[frau kaleun]

Originally Posted by Pebble Monkey

Wow the surprises just mount up. Such a great tool.

Started SHIII Commander for my second patrol tonight, and as I hit load i got the following:

TRANSFERS OUT:
Stabsbootsman Herbet Goldbeck - Killed in a bar fight
Matrosenobergefreiter Erich Heisig - Killed by local partisans

I have a feeling that I have a crew of troublemakers here

Oh well, it's a shame about Heisig. But as far as Goldbeck goes... do you really want the guy who loses his bar fights?

[JScones]

Originally Posted by Pebble Monkey

Wow the surprises just mount up. Such a great tool.

Started SHIII Commander for my second patrol tonight, and as I hit load i got the following:

TRANSFERS OUT:
Stabsbootsman Herbet Goldbeck - Killed in a bar fight
Matrosenobergefreiter Erich Heisig - Killed by local partisans

I have a feeling that I have a crew of troublemakers here

No transfers in? Gee, BdU were pretty mean to you...

[JScones]

Originally Posted by P_Funk

So I've encountered a real problem with SH3 commander that I've never had.

I didn't play SH3 for a long time, decided to play again, installed it, GWX, SH3 Commander, while using the steam version (which I never used beforehand) and created a new career. Well that captain died tonight and I decided to start a new one, just in time for Drumbeat. So Dec of 41, a type IX with the number 130.

When I went to create the new career, while the name I chose was created in the SH3 careers directory, none of the other data that SH3Cmdr creates was there. Instead of Dec of 41 I ended up in April, and instead of a IXC I had a IXB with a different number. This seems to be an issue with the steam version since I have searched this thread and a couple hits involved players who use the steam version having the same issue as me.

What I find to be peculiar is that the first time through everything seemed to work just fine, all my details were created, but now its suddenly stopped with me having done nothing to the game files since then.

I'm not sure if there's anyone who has a solution for me. I may just have to go find my long lost hard copy of SH3.

I don't use steam myself, but if you are running Vista or Win7 and installing the steam version to the default location, then unless you escalate permissions for both SH3Cmdr and the game (and JSGME if you use it), you'll have the problem you describe.

Easiest solution is just to install SH3 outside of the Program Files folder. Instructions are in various related threads.

If, however, you are using XP, then I have no idea.

[P_Funk]

Originally Posted by JScones

I don't use steam myself, but if you are running Vista or Win7 and installing the steam version to the default location, then unless you escalate permissions for both SH3Cmdr and the game (and JSGME if you use it), you'll have the problem you describe.

Easiest solution is just to install SH3 outside of the Program Files folder. Instructions are in various related threads.

If, however, you are using XP, then I have no idea.

Yes I'm using XP since I already found the Vista solution. I'm stumped. It must be something to do with Steam and how it appropriates the files.

I've yet to find a solution and this problem has sapped some of the fun for me...

Thanks for answering.

[JScones]

Originally Posted by Tessa

Does SHC re-write those two files from its own cache

No. However if you make changes to your game files while SH3Cmdr changes are still in place, then your changes will be blown away when SH3Cmdr "reverts to clean state" (ie rollback), that is, back to how the game was before it (not you) changed the files.

Originally Posted by Tessa

or does it just add/modify the existing file without changing other values?

Yes.

And on a related note I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH THAT SH3CMDR DOES NOT MODIFY THE RANKS THAT ARE ALREADY EXISTING IN THE GAME! (that's usually where this question leads)

In case that is not clear to anyone, SH3Cmdr does NOT modify strings 160 to 174 in **_menu.txt in any way.

From the ever helpful User Guide:

I want to start my career at a rank higher than Leutnant (rank bump). Will SH3 Commander allow me?
SH3 Commander reads whatever ranks are in SH3. However, when creating a Commander’s pre-SH3 history, SH3 Commander assumes the starting rank will be as SH3 originally set it. It needs to do this for maximum compatibility. Thus, any “rank bumping", that is, changing your starting rank to anything higher than the SH3 default, will create gaps between your pre-SH3 history and your SH3 career. This will be evident only if you generate Personnel Files, where you will notice missing promotions. You can alleviate this somewhat by adjusting the pre-SH3 rank labels in SH3Cmdr_*.txt, or simply ensuring that you always start careers at the default rank of Leutnant.

I do not provide support for those who wish to rank bump. If you choose to apply an approach other than the generally accepted "shake down cruise -> promotion to ObLt", you're on your own. I have to draw the line somewhere to ensure maximum compatibility with the majority of players.

Originally Posted by Tessa

Is it possible to run SHC without using any options (so no changes are made to those two files above mentioned files) so that it just runs more like an extended logbook? Thanks for any help that you might be able to provide

If you don't want any of its functionality, just don't use it to load SH3. Just load it after patrols and use it to edit your patrol log and generate your updated personnel file.

Alternatively, just make sure you apply your file changes to a clean state installation of SH3 (ie sans SH3Cmdr changes), OR apply your file changes to SH3Cmdr's "Static settings.cfg" file. That way SH3Cmdr will ALWAYS apply them to your game, regardless.

[Tessa]

Originally Posted by JScones

And on a related note I CANNOT STRESS ENOUGH THAT SH3CMDR DOES NOT MODIFY THE RANKS THAT ARE ALREADY EXISTING IN THE GAME! (that's usually where this question leads)

In case that is not clear to anyone, SH3Cmdr does NOT modify strings 160 to 174 in **_menu.txt in any way.

I figured out how to re-add the expanded ranks you can put in to the 176-179 slots without casuing a conflict (and still staying correct and able to use the korvettenkapitan + ranks and images already included in SH's files). Was trying to use the menu_variable_en of your's that you used to insert all the extra radio dialogue doing so as per the difections in that file.

Originally Posted by JScones

If you don't want any of its functionality, just don't use it to load SH3. Just load it after patrols and use it to edit your patrol log and generate your updated personnel file.

Alternatively, just make sure you apply your file changes to a clean state installation of SH3 (ie sans SH3Cmdr changes), OR apply your file changes to SH3Cmdr's "Static settings.cfg" file. That way SH3Cmdr will ALWAYS apply them to your game, regardless.

I'm sorry if it sounded offensive or that I was trying to blame SHC for the problems, I was frustrated that SHC wasn't acting as it should've even under the 2nd scenario you describe. The next patrol I started getting a chronic CTD problem and had to scrap that carreer and re-install from scratch (nuking any and all files and folders the (base) game creates).

After that whole ordeal started over at square 1 with SHC, and the modifications I added to the static_settings file and variable_menu_en and was able to get all the ranks to Vizeadmiral working again and change the medal values. Sorry that I did't make a post earlier say "everythings all fixed" as I should have. The CTD issues that were plaguing me before are gone and have even been able to successfully savegames while submerged (some times had no choice),early this week my Grandmother died and when I got the news was playing a game and submerged while in a safe (but not safe to surface) scenario and had to drop everything to travel up to her place and the funeral.

Some mods I had in use I cracked em open and instead of adding them with JGSME just added their changes in the static_settings file instead and drastically reduced the number of mods on my list, anything there now is something that is more major (like the gui mod, ship skin, etc.).

Is nice again to be able to use SHC's extra features and has made my games more stable. Scenarios where there would've been a 90% chance of CTD on loading the game, has no been reduced to 0 with SHC.

[JScones]

Originally Posted by Tessa

I'm sorry if it sounded offensive or that I was trying to blame SHC for the problems...

Didn't think that at all, so nothing to apologise for.

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

That JScones guy is such a loser! All that work and he couldn't even be bothered to put in a note that says "Stabsoberbootsman Bruckner entertains the crew with a tale of the three Sturmgruppe guys he whipped single-handed. Unfortunately Matrosenobergefreiter Schmidt doesn't believe him and says so, which leads to another fight! Dismiss Schmidt? Dismiss Bruckner? Assign one to peel cookie's potatoes for a week?"

What a lazy bum!

LOL. My preferred option would be "hand over to the discipline WO to deal with, my head hurts".