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Old 08-17-10, 10:35 PM   #1
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When it comes to US subs I've always rated the book by Clay Blair - Silent Victory
Silent Victory is, more or less, the standard bearer in the subject.
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Old 08-17-10, 10:46 PM   #2
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What about Red Storm Rising?

I never read it, but is it all submarine or just part of it is?

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Just part of it is submarine but as I remember Clancy does a good job of integrating the action in the air, on the surface, and under the sea.

His second book under the Naval Press publisher and it is good.
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http://www.amazon.com/Clear-Bridge-P...2133284&sr=8-1

Very good book - non fiction - by a brilliant sub commander.

A real eye opener for me.
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http://www.amazon.com/Clear-Bridge-P...2133284&sr=8-1

Very good book - non fiction - by a brilliant sub commander.

A real eye opener for me.
I'm tempted Dan....would you say it is as good as Silent Victory?
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War Beneath the Sea
Submarine Conflict During World War II

Peter Padfield
John Wiley & Sons, Inc
1995
ISBN 0-471-14624-2

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War Beneath the Sea
Submarine Conflict During World War II

Peter Padfield
John Wiley & Sons, Inc
1995
ISBN 0-471-14624-2

I'll second that.
It sat on my bookshelf quite a while before I got around to reading it, but I've read it cover to cover twice in the last two and half years and have gone back and referenced various sections as well.

It's a pretty thick book but he covers all nationalities. He concentrates on the U-boat offensive but there is alot about the US submarine campaign and very nice coverage of the British submarine campaign. There's even a smattering of stuff about Japanese boats.

He covers each nation's design philosophies as well as tactical doctrine with plenty of details of famous and not so famous commanders.

Well worth the read.

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Here are two I got for a song whilst on holiday last week from a bookshop in The Lake District of all places.

The first one I wasn't sure if I already had but thankfully I didn't.

U-Boat War Patrol-The Hidden Photographic Diary of U-564 by Lawrence Paterson

http://www.amazon.co.uk/U-boat-War-P...3869551&sr=8-2

The Golden Horseshoe-The Story Of Otto Kretschmer by Terence Robertson

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/offer-lis...&condition=all

Pay little attention to the price, I paid £4.99 for a brand new copy.
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I'm tempted Dan....would you say it is as good as Silent Victory?
Anything by O'Kane is worth reading. Blair's books provide an overview, O'Kane is a very good writer and he was there.
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Blair's books provide an overview, O'Kane is a very good writer and he was there.
Agree with Steve. O'Kane is very analytical and good on technical and tactical details. You get to read a lot of what went through his head in planning for an attack or a section of his patrol, and not much was left to chance.

Somehow, after reading Clair's book I got a bad feeling about US submarines: basically the first part of the war they were poorly used strategically, were not aggressive enough and had lots of technical troubles. And then they wipe out the Japs merchant fleet in one year - it felt like something was missing.

Reading O'Kane and the "Wolfpack - the American submarine strategy that helped defeat Japan" opened my eyes in that the first clearly illustrates how good a sub captain can be and the 2nd tells the history of "getting there" and how much the Americans were trying, while maybe failing.

I never lacked respect for the US Submarine Service, but now its double
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Rgr that guys....I'll have a gander for the book
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Anything by O'Kane is worth reading. Blair's books provide an overview, O'Kane is a very good writer and he was there.
O'Kane is a favorite. A few years ago the wife found a first edition hard cover signed by Rear Admiral O'Kane.
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If you are looking for fiction, here are some good Fleetboat books:

Run Silent, Run Deep
Dust on the Sea
Cold is the Sea

Final Harbor
Silent Sea
O God of Battles

Pride Runs Deep
Sink the Shigure

Bacalao

If you like Uboats:

Das Boot
An Honorable German
With Honour in Battle


As you can see, I am more of a Fleet Boat reader! But these are all very good books.
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