[REL] Radar Training for Nisgeis' 3D TDC and Radar Range Unit UPDATED: 7/31/10

Nisgeis · 07-18-10, 04:21 PM

Looks good

. Could it be condensed a bit with more than one image per post? You'll never fit the rest of it in like that

.

clayp · 07-18-10, 04:42 PM

How do you get those views looking down on the radar?

John Channing · 07-18-10, 05:24 PM

Using TMO 1.5 all you have to do is left click anywhere except a radar screen and use your mouse to move you view around. Not sure if this works the same is later versions of TMO, but I woul be suprosed if it didn't.

JCC

clayp · 07-18-10, 05:33 PM

I have an earlier TMO and when I try to activate the mod I get these conflicts...
"NSS_Gato_CT.dat" has already been altered by the "RFB_v1.4S" mod.
"NSS_Gato_CT.sim" has already been altered by the "RFB_v1.4S" mod.
"Cameras.dat" has already been altered by the "Clayp's Optics for RFB 1.4" mod.
"Sensors_sub_US.sim" has already been altered by the "RFB_v1.4S" mod.
"menu_1024_768.ini" has already been altered by the "Clayp's Optics for RFB 1.4" mod.
"Common_TDC_Gauges_01.dds" has already been altered by the "RFB_v1.4S" mod.

John Channing · 07-18-10, 06:55 PM

Most of the mods you are using are for RFB, not TMO. Try putting it in and see what happens. The worst thing that can happen is that it screws something up, and then you can just take it back out again.

It's really worth it!

JCC

clayp · 07-19-10, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Channing

Most of the mods you are using are for RFB, not TMO. Try putting it in and see what happens. The worst thing that can happen is that it screws something up, and then you can just take it back out again.

It's really worth it!

JCC

I put it in and the game wouldnt start...

sergei · 07-19-10, 01:49 PM

Very nice work JC, thanks for this.
It's really helped me out.

I was really struggling with getting this to work. At first I assumed it just didn't work properly in TMO 2.0.

No matter what I did, I couldn't seem to get the range triangle to show up.

Now I realise I was missing out a vitally important step.
You have to switch the radar into expanded mode to take your range reading.

The mod works just fine in TMO 2.0. Classic case of operator error.

Tried it out today, tracking an incoming target in light fog.
By the time he was within view I had his course pretty much nailed, and was submerged about 1500 yards off his track, just waiting.

Incredibly satisfying.

Gorshkov · 07-19-10, 01:53 PM

All it does is to give you accurate target's course estimation at distances beyond active sonar and periscope/stadimeter range. Stock radar cannot do this. This is very useful because you can get initial fire position sailing surfaced and not being spotted by enemy ships. Later you can submerge to carry out your attack. Possibly Japs did not have RWRs at that time which made American radars so deadly asset.

PS. Does this mod work with RFB 2.0?

AVGWarhawk · 07-19-10, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

Looks good

. Could it be condensed a bit with more than one image per post? You'll never fit the rest of it in like that

.

Easy to follow. I got it on the first reading. Very very cool mod. Adds a lot!

John Channing · 07-19-10, 11:27 AM

I kinda screwed up the thread a bit (by putting all of the slides on seperate posts and then deleting them.... such a n00b) so I am glad you were able to follow it.

Wait until you see how cool the TDC is. When you get a working solution in it and are able to follw it as it develops while the contact is still miles away it unbeatable.

Ever since I read "Shinano: The Sinking of Japan's Secret Supership" by Joseph Enright (captain of the USS Archer-fish) I have wantd to do this. Now I can!

And so can you!

JCC

Munchausen · 07-19-10, 11:36 AM

Looks really good. Hope you don't condense the TDC part ... 'cause, so far, I'm following along quite well. Each picture is worth at least a thousand words.

John Channing · 07-19-10, 12:07 PM

If anything it will be a little more in-depth. But it is going to take a little while to get it done correctly.

Please be patient.

JCC

I'm goin' down · 07-31-10, 03:48 PM

No wonder I did not know what I was doing. I was doing it wrong. I read the new portion of the tutorial. This far more complex that I thought. Good job Mr. Channing!!

Nisgeis · 07-31-10, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by I'm goin' down

When Channing completes the tutorial, maybe he will include a download for a practice mission with all kinds of targets. Hint, Hint.

Here's a link to a set of training missions for the radar and one for the TDC. The TDC training mission is the same target as depicted in the TDC tutorial for those that want to follow along:

Link:

Radar and TDC training missions v1.01

Quote:

Originally Posted by I'm goin' down

No wonder I did not know what I was doing. I was doing it wrong.

I'm sure someone mentioned something along those lines before

.

07-18-10, 04:21 PM	#1
Nisgeis Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,909 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 11	Looks good . Could it be condensed a bit with more than one image per post? You'll never fit the rest of it in like that . __________________ -------------------------------- This space left intentionally blank.

07-18-10, 04:42 PM	#2
clayp The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,554 Downloads: 340 Uploads: 0	How do you get those views looking down on the radar? __________________ clayp

07-18-10, 05:33 PM	#4
clayp The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,554 Downloads: 340 Uploads: 0	I have an earlier TMO and when I try to activate the mod I get these conflicts... "NSS_Gato_CT.dat" has already been altered by the "RFB_v1.4S" mod. "NSS_Gato_CT.sim" has already been altered by the "RFB_v1.4S" mod. "Cameras.dat" has already been altered by the "Clayp's Optics for RFB 1.4" mod. "Sensors_sub_US.sim" has already been altered by the "RFB_v1.4S" mod. "menu_1024_768.ini" has already been altered by the "Clayp's Optics for RFB 1.4" mod. "Common_TDC_Gauges_01.dds" has already been altered by the "RFB_v1.4S" mod. __________________ clayp

07-18-10, 06:55 PM	#5
John Channing Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 1,846 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 5	Most of the mods you are using are for RFB, not TMO. Try putting it in and see what happens. The worst thing that can happen is that it screws something up, and then you can just take it back out again. It's really worth it! JCC Last edited by John Channing; 07-18-10 at 07:07 PM.

07-31-10, 03:48 PM	#13
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	Whoa Baby! No wonder I did not know what I was doing. I was doing it wrong. I read the new portion of the tutorial. This far more complex that I thought. Good job Mr. Channing!!

07-18-10, 05:24 PM	#3
John Channing Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 1,846 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 5	Using TMO 1.5 all you have to do is left click anywhere except a radar screen and use your mouse to move you view around. Not sure if this works the same is later versions of TMO, but I woul be suprosed if it didn't. JCC

07-19-10, 01:49 PM	#7
sergei Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 1,788 Downloads: 405 Uploads: 29	Very nice work JC, thanks for this. It's really helped me out. I was really struggling with getting this to work. At first I assumed it just didn't work properly in TMO 2.0. No matter what I did, I couldn't seem to get the range triangle to show up. Now I realise I was missing out a vitally important step. You have to switch the radar into expanded mode to take your range reading. The mod works just fine in TMO 2.0. Classic case of operator error. Tried it out today, tracking an incoming target in light fog. By the time he was within view I had his course pretty much nailed, and was submerged about 1500 yards off his track, just waiting. Incredibly satisfying.

07-19-10, 01:53 PM	#8
Gorshkov Commodore Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 604 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	All it does is to give you accurate target's course estimation at distances beyond active sonar and periscope/stadimeter range. Stock radar cannot do this. This is very useful because you can get initial fire position sailing surfaced and not being spotted by enemy ships. Later you can submerge to carry out your attack. Possibly Japs did not have RWRs at that time which made American radars so deadly asset. PS. Does this mod work with RFB 2.0?

07-19-10, 11:27 AM	#10
John Channing Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 1,846 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 5	I kinda screwed up the thread a bit (by putting all of the slides on seperate posts and then deleting them.... such a n00b) so I am glad you were able to follow it. Wait until you see how cool the TDC is. When you get a working solution in it and are able to follw it as it develops while the contact is still miles away it unbeatable. Ever since I read "Shinano: The Sinking of Japan's Secret Supership" by Joseph Enright (captain of the USS Archer-fish) I have wantd to do this. Now I can! And so can you! JCC

07-19-10, 11:36 AM	#11
Munchausen Commodore Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 608 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 1	Looks really good. Hope you don't condense the TDC part ... 'cause, so far, I'm following along quite well. Each picture is worth at least a thousand words.

07-19-10, 12:07 PM	#12
John Channing Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 1,846 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 5	If anything it will be a little more in-depth. But it is going to take a little while to get it done correctly. Please be patient. JCC

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