F-35: Spy in the Sky

[CaptainHaplo]

Finally, let's look at present wars: we see Taliban and El Quaeda and Iraqi rebels and Afghan rebels fighting with relatively primtiive weapons. still they prove to be capable to prevent vcitory to america and her Allies.

Skybird - I would say that while high technology is great, its not the primitive weapons that keep the Allies from winning - its the lack of willingness to fight this as a war.

10 B29's could end the war in Afghanistan. Each with functional remakes of a Fat Man. Each plane would fly extremely limited sorties before the problem was solved. WHY? Because when its die or rat out the terrorists - people will choose to rat out the terrorists. And for those "insurgent strongholds" - well - a few mushroom clouds and the problem is gone.
Ain't pretty, ain't nice - but then again - war isn't. Something the Allied Forces in this conflict seem to have forgotten.

[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Skybird - I would say that while high technology is great, its not the primitive weapons that keep the Allies from winning - its the lack of willingness to fight this as a war.

10 B29's could end the war in Afghanistan. Each with functional remakes of a Fat Man. Each plane would fly extremely limited sorties before the problem was solved. WHY? Because when its die or rat out the terrorists - people will choose to rat out the terrorists. And for those "insurgent strongholds" - well - a few mushroom clouds and the problem is gone.
Ain't pretty, ain't nice - but then again - war isn't. Something the Allied Forces in this conflict seem to have forgotten.

I think if you'd met some of the people you're talking about turning into shadows burned into the glass that was once sand you'd have a different view, CH. They're just people. Many of them are good people. I know we've had this discussion before, and I know your opinion won't likely change unless you have a chance to interact with them on a daily basis, but I'll still ask you to believe me when I say that simply deciding to destroy a life or a family is a lot harder when you have met them face to face. Moreso when you finger is on the trigger and they are looking back at you through your front-sight post. Not all terrorists are Muslims, and not all Muslims are terrorists.

I think you already know this, and I think that if you had the option to instantly annihilate every Islamic terrorist, along with anyone connected with them or even in the same area, you wouldn't do it. I think you wouldn't do it because you're better than that. You are conscious enough of the threat by virtue of understanding the threat to be aware of the kind of thinking that generates the threat in the first place, yes?

Have a care when imposing your judgement upon others, especially when that judgement carries irreversible consequences.

[ajrimmer42]

t'would be great if we got some JSFs, always liked them. Although that may be something to do with the fact that my dad used to be project manager of the team making the engine swivel nozzle exhaust thingamajig at the back. Having said that I think it's a shame the Boeing one didn't get chosen as I thought it looked awesome!



Look at it's big smile lol

[Takeda Shingen]

I mean no offense, but I've always thought the X-32 looked hideous.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I mean no offense, but I've always thought the X-32 looked hideous.

Its like the bastard child of a F-22 and a A-7 with the grace of neither.

I'm sorry ajrimmer42 but its an aircraft so ugly only its design team could love it.

The X-32 was a good try for Boeing (after 60 years since its last fighter) but Lockheed's jet was just too well put together. Maybe next time.

[ajrimmer42]

lol, I know what you mean, it is pretty ugly (though I think that's why I like it!) but I just think the Lockheed Martin one looks too much like an F22, at least the Boeing one was a bit different Don't get me wrong I do like the F22 but it almost seems a bit lazy on the park of LM that they couldn't change it a bit. And it's not as though all their attention was on the VTOL system as even that had to be extensively modded after the original design, that fan behind the cockpit was added later on after everyone said it would hover with just the rear nozzle lol.

[krashkart]

Sorry, I could not resist...




TBH I do have a tender spot for ugly airplanes.


*Chose 2001 since the contract was won that year by Lockheed