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Old 07-14-10, 01:48 PM   #1
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According to the science dudes they interviewed re this delay on the morning news, they want to take a longer/second look at the seismic activity readings for the ocean floor surrounding the source of the current leak, and get additional pressure readings at the site before proceeding.

This is being done to make sure the pressure build-up in and around the failed blow-out preventer falls within certain parameters and is consistent in doing so. If it does not, it could compromise the safety and effectiveness of the next part of the process or indicate that what they have done so far is not having the desired effect, meaning that the "next step" in the process would not work any better than all the previous tries at capping the leak AND might just make things worse.
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Old 07-14-10, 02:16 PM   #2
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look at the seismic activity readings for the ocean floor surrounding the source of the current leak,.
Its the freakin gulf of mexico not the San Adreas fault for gods sake.

Why the hell wasent all of this thought of before now.

Again... BP was not going to slap it shut and risk a blowout they were going to slowly incrimentally test the thing.

As to Obama I distinctly remember him stating "Plug the damn hole".

I really have to question the motives here.
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Old 07-14-10, 02:20 PM   #3
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Fair point but I somehow think Obama will be teflon coated on this matter.
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Its the freakin gulf of mexico not the San Adreas fault for gods sake.

Why the hell wasent all of this thought of before now.

Again... BP was not going to slap it shut and risk a blowout they were going to slowly incrimentally test the thing.

As to Obama I distinctly remember him stating "Plug the damn hole".

I really have to question the motives here.
I'm sure it was. Obama wants a crisis now to offset his other missteps, but it will backfire on him like so many other things. Incompetance, perhaps. Dissillusioned more likely.
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Senators call for a halt to drilling........... in Libiya

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The four senators from New York and New Jersey, already seeking an investigation into the Lockerbie bomber's release from prison last year, kept the pressure up Wednesday by calling on BP to suspend its oil drilling plans in Libya until it can be determined whether the oil giant played any role in his release in exchange for a contract.
Now I dont pretend to know what all was going on there but it really is getting strange.

Eventually BP will just say "Know what? We quit !" and go out of buisness or be absorbed by...
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Old 07-14-10, 03:08 PM   #5
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Senators call for a halt to drilling........... in Libiya



Now I dont pretend to know what all was going on there but it really is getting strange.

Eventually BP will just say "Know what? We quit !" and go out of buisness or be absorbed by...
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Exactly. Had I been BP it would have happened as soon as Obama said he was in charge and would have been further amplified after the congress show trial of BP execs.
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Old 07-15-10, 08:38 AM   #6
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WHY did Obama cause this oil spill!?!?!

Why, Obama, why!?!?!?
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WHY did Obama cause this oil spill!?!?!

Why, Obama, why!?!?!?
Please oh please explain to me the purpose and meaning of this post?
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Old 07-14-10, 03:13 PM   #8
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Its the freakin gulf of mexico not the San Adreas fault for gods sake.
http://www.huliq.com/9990/deepwater-...ng-earthquakes

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The Deepwater Horizon well on the steep slope of the canyon wall is very susceptible to tectonic movements and may further endanger the stability of the well ceiling.
While the gulf is not exactly Southern California, it is not a stranger to large earthquakes

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquak...sslav.php#maps

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquak.../us/index.html
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Again... why was this not considered aforehand, they knew the new cap was going on, they knew BP was making progress, they knew the 'plan'. It is only when the plan comes to fruition they say "Oh wait hold on a minute lets not be so hasty". At best its piss poor planing and an utter lack of foresight. Another familiar pattern.

Also it begs the question of why in the hell are they drilling in such a precarious place?
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Again... why was this not considered aforehand, they knew the new cap was going on, they knew BP was making progress, they knew the 'plan'. It is only when the plan comes to fruition they say "Oh wait hold on a minute lets not be so hasty". At best its piss poor planing and an utter lack of foresight. Another familiar pattern.

Also it begs the question of why in the hell are they drilling in such a precarious place?

No arguments from me on this. While I don't consider BP to be "evil", at the same time, it appears that BP acted very irresponsibly. It can be argued, and probably will, whether the government should have allowed or not allowed BP (and the other oil companies) to act irresponsibility. But government action/inaction should not recuse BP from their responsibilities for acting... well.. responsibly.
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Old 07-14-10, 05:52 PM   #11
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BP has been once again getting a slating in the US although this time via the Senate and about the Libyan bomber of Pan Am 103, some chat show-types sounded like we were the new Afghanistan/Iraq/Korea, and yet even my wife knows that the major shareholder is JPMorgan Chase - yes the very, very large US investment firm! Where are the media banging on their doors asking them to pay dearly for what THEY have done.
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BP has been once again getting a slating in the US although this time via the Senate and about the Libyan bomber of Pan Am 103, some chat show-types sounded like we were the new Afghanistan/Iraq/Korea, and yet even my wife knows that the major shareholder is JPMorgan Chase - yes the very, very large US investment firm! Where are the media banging on their doors asking them to pay dearly for what THEY have done.
Well seeing as how given the way things are going a major shareholder in BP is going to pay.

Speaking of that I have heard some rumblings of BP not paying up settelments in a timely manner... what happened to that slush fund?
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Old 07-14-10, 06:49 PM   #13
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Some things in a mission like this you cannot precisely forsee. They measured a chnage in seismic activity in the area due to the valves slowly being closed, and this was according to a range and shcmee they did not expect. It is a normal and sensible decision then you obserbe what is going on for a little bit longer than originally projected in the "plan". Last news is they expect to move on according to plan soon, just with the said delay.

delays for observing the influence of the cap and the closing valves on the behavbioor of the oil well and the seismic structure in the area were pre-planned. the planned pauses just were longer than forseen, due to unforseen range of seismic chnages.

no conspiracy here, SW. No evil Feds trying to mess up free business and throwig mud at BP. That BP has a mask of mud over its face - is BP's very own fault - they did the damage. the faut of governments has been "only" that they allowed hilariously mild controls on security, and made security rules for deep drilling that the norwegian experts mocked about as not being security rules at all by their own Norwegian standards.

The oil lobby was very successful over the past decades to prevent any tighter legislation that would cost more precious money of their profits. Recent legal disputes between the lobby and the government just shows how powerful this lobby is.
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