Racist Tea Party People? Nope. Just Americans!

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

Hypothetically, if I were to say that I'd "tap that black gold like Rockefeller", would that be in poor taste?

tap it brother.

by all means... tap it like theres no tomorrow

[Zachstar]

Originally Posted by Moeceefus

guess who is a registered republican? not that the tea party idea is party based, but i'm not one to get flustered when a radical left winger makes a stupid comment. its what the radical right wingers say that makes it/us look bad.

I used to be a republican myself. Even had a chatroom going with Bush 04 supporters.

Many tea party fools remind me of what I was like back in the day. I could not wait for the bombs to fall on Iraq. War was exciting and backing republicans was a way to see more war on Fox (Yes I was a big fox news fan and that is why I know what they are like today) I considered the left as pansy bleeding heart liberals who would rather see the country get attacked again than glass the middle east.

One of the things that got me to move left was realizing my family was going to war for real for months in the middle of hostile territory. Realizing I was advocating tax breaks for companies that sent my communities jobs overseas. Advocating laws to restrict the rights of homosexuals that have done nothing to me and my family. Advocating removing help for families that have suffered economic toil. In other words I had become a monster and it took getting older to realize that.

When I look upon the faces of many tea party fools I see my younger face.

[UnderseaLcpl]

And what do you see now, ZS? What is your comprehensive policy for implementing positive social change? Who would you trust to implement it, and how might they be appointed?

I ask because when I look at Democrats and socialists and people who are socialist but don't realize it, I see my younger face. I'd be interested to hear what you think now and how you came to the conclusions you have. No insult intended, of course.

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

tap it brother.

by all means... tap it like theres no tomorrow

Heh... If I hit that, there would be no tommorrow. She has kids. Game over man, game over!

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

And what do you see now, ZS? What is your comprehensive policy for implementing positive social change? Who would you trust to implement it, and how might they be appointed?

I ask because when I look at Democrats and socialists and people who are socialist but don't realize it, I see my younger face. I'd be interested to hear what you think now and how you came to the conclusions you have. No insult intended, of course.

You know.

its funny

when Snoop Dogg was a street rapper, he hated the cops.

I remember a few years ago reading a quote of his that went something like this:

"I used to hate cops... but now that i own stuff and own a house, they are actually kind of important"

- of course there were a lot more "hizzles" and "nizzles" etc

something you said immediately brought that quote to my head. It could be that age, wisdom and circumstance changes people.

I wasnt very far right myself, nor was i very politically active until i started building a business and owning things and being a success by my own merit.

[Zachstar]

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

And what do you see now, ZS? What is your comprehensive policy for implementing positive social change? Who would you trust to implement it, and how might they be appointed?

I ask because when I look at Democrats and socialists and people who are socialist but don't realize it, I see my younger face. I'd be interested to hear what you think now and how you came to the conclusions you have. No insult intended, of course.

edit- Heh... If I hit that, there would be no tommorrow. She has kids. Game over man, game over!

I guess viewpoints depends. Perhaps you had an "interesting" youth? Not trying to say your age as I don't know but many people who were into the movements of the 60s went right due to how they viewed their younger selves. Tho I tend to notice their right is a bit right of center not extreme right.

Perhaps you saw your face as someone who wanted nukes to be outlawed. Military to do whatever.. Maybe even a socialist aspect (As some were back then) Maybe that is why you see dems and liberals as such. Tho it has tended to move to the right a bit. Especially with my viewpoint of Tecnological Progressive which is only a bit left of center and advocates a "Left" approach to gov involvement in technology research and use.

If that was the case perhaps then your shift wasnt as extreme in my opinion. I advocated violence against an entire region and advocated removing rights from homosexuals (Back then I think its safe to say I was a homophobe) My shift was extreme in comparison in my opinion. It had to be. My viewpoints got this country in a mess with the wars.

[GoldenRivet]

i think it would be a little extreme to label all right wing / conservatives as

Racist homophobes thought, dont you?

[Zachstar]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

i think it would be a little extreme to label all right wing / conservatives as

Racist homophobes thought, dont you?

No and forgive me if that post sounded that way. But sadly many in the tea party movement are and the movement has not done nearly enough to discredit those who use the party to spread their hateful message.

Let me pick a different issue to relate. The whole tax thing. I was also on the whole tax the poor bandwagon. If I were myself I would refuse to believe Obama lowered my taxes with the "Making work pay program" And sure enough I saw video after video of people tearing up pages of evidence and calling the camera man a socialist. People saying its fake etc.. etc..

I would have called the camera man a pansy liberal or something.

Originally Posted by Zachstar

I used to be a republican myself. Even had a chatroom going with Bush 04 supporters.

Many tea party fools remind me of what I was like back in the day. I could not wait for the bombs to fall on Iraq. War was exciting and backing republicans was a way to see more war on Fox (Yes I was a big fox news fan and that is why I know what they are like today) I considered the left as pansy bleeding heart liberals who would rather see the country get attacked again than glass the middle east.

One of the things that got me to move left was realizing my family was going to war for real for months in the middle of hostile territory. Realizing I was advocating tax breaks for companies that sent my communities jobs overseas. Advocating laws to restrict the rights of homosexuals that have done nothing to me and my family. Advocating removing help for families that have suffered economic toil. In other words I had become a monster and it took getting older to realize that.

When I look upon the faces of many tea party fools I see my younger face.

More name calling! Why are they "fools" exactly? Is it because their opinion differs from your own! Yep!

BTW, it sounds like you were a very weak republican if you bailed out because of personal reasons. How selfish to think only of yourself and abandon ship to all those you were once with. I'm glad I never served next to you in a foxhole! You're the type that runs towards the enemy with a white flag when you think the battle's been won in their favor. The word "cowardice" comes to mind.

But I for some reason don't believe that you have ever been a conservative. You're just too liberal to have ever been a real conservative. Nobody goes that extreme unless a coconut falls off a tree and hits them in the head!

[GoldenRivet]

isnt it next year or 2012 that the Obama tax changes take effect?

cant recall

Im right wing... but that doesnt make me a republican. from what i can determine, i fit in somewhere in the Libertarian arena.

Ever since Bush V. Dukakis i have raised the question "Why chose between only two parties?" - and hell i was what? 11 years old?

Sure... i refer to something as being gay. And i call my friends "faggot" when they do something i might call "gay". that doesnt make me a homophobe - i promise i never tried to hang any gay people i have been around in social or professional settings.

I'll also call a spade a spade so to speak, but that doesnt make me racist. I swear i have never lynched a black guy. (though yes... I use the N word like every other white and black person around here but the desensitization to that is another topic for another day)

Hell i talk trash about blacks, but i talk a lot of trash about bubba and his 300 pound arm piece holding up the check out line at wal mart with their food stamps too.

Thats just how I am... there are some people who view it as racism here at subsim, but I really dont care... I'm not scared of being labeled by people who comment on forum threads and have no idea about any of the more intimate details of my life.

I'll shake hands with a black person and welcome them into my home with the same zest i would welcome anyone else. - and i think probably 90% of the rest of us crackers would do the same.

and yes... if i could run faster than James... i would tap Katrina, until i was completely stroked out.

[Zachstar]

The making work pay system was for the 2009 tax return which I filed in 2010 as most people do obviously. It gave me a significant boost on my return compared to last year. So ya I and most other Americans got a tax cut.

It was on turbo tax did your tax system let you know about that?

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

The making work pay system was for the 2009 tax return which I filed in 2010 as most people do obviously. It gave me a significant boost on my return compared to last year. So ya I and most other Americans got a tax cut.

It was on turbo tax did your tax system let you know about that?

if its in there we used it I'm sure. Couldnt tell you, I mind the shop and keep the planes running.

Im not SMRT enough to do taxes etc - that and i really dont like thinking about it.

[Zachstar]

Well business tax I don't understand one bit. Except lately there has been a supposed bunch of small biz tax cuts tacked onto a bunch of legislation.

A complicated mess regardless of party.

[GoldenRivet]

i wonder.


When Katrina is getting after it - does she play that song "rock you like a hurricane"?

[Moeceefus]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

i wonder.


When Katrina is getting after it - does she play that song "rock you like a hurricane"?

I bet she could give you a blow you'd never forget.

[GoldenRivet]

hahaha