Ranking of U.S. Presidents by historians

Might as well enter the fray.

Top of the list:
1: Jefferson
2: Jackson
3: Grant

Bottom of the list:
1: Wilson
2: Johnson (LBJ)
3: Roosevelt (FDR)

Originally Posted by Snestorm

Might as well enter the fray.

Top of the list:
1: Jefferson
2: Jackson
3: Grant

Bottom of the list:
1: Wilson
2: Johnson (LBJ)
3: Roosevelt (FDR)

That's a good list. Though I'd put JFK in place of your LBJ. It was JFK that got us involved with Vietnam. LBJ just went all out after JFK and destroyed all those innocent trees! Never hit crap as far as NVA and VC goes (they were underground getting a headache) but he did kill a helluva lot of trees. I got to give him credit for pissing off the tree-hugger crowd - F'n hippies!.

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Snestorm

Might as well enter the fray.

Top of the list:
1: Jefferson
2: Jackson
3: Grant

Bottom of the list:
1: Wilson
2: Johnson (LBJ)
3: Roosevelt (FDR)

interesting choices, but why Grant? I have a lot of respect for him as a general, but he was not really cut out to be a politician.

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

interesting choices, but why Grant? I have a lot of respect for him as a general, but he was not really cut out to be a politician.

A small sub-quote, from within your quote:
". . . he was not really cut out to be a politician."

That in itself, is ONE of the big reasons why.

He also had the guts to say "no" to some very powerful people.
He paid a price for that too, but I'd prefer to stay away from that subject, for the time being.