Q: Has anyone been bombed , depth charged or sunk by an aircraft Yet?

TheDarkWraith · 06-28-10, 09:06 PM

I've started rewriting the scripts for the AI....hopefully I can fix the problems with them. It took me awhile to figure out the 'language' of the AI but now it's pretty easy. They (devs) gave a lot of power to the programmers for the AI. We should be able to make them do anything we want. Testing so far is quite positive

THE_MASK · 06-28-10, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

I've started rewriting the scripts for the AI....hopefully I can fix the problems with them. It took me awhile to figure out the 'language' of the AI but now it's pretty easy. They (devs) gave a lot of power to the programmers for the AI. We should be able to make them do anything we want. Testing so far is quite positive

Best news since your UI mod . Thank you lord , i mean TheDarkWraith .

06-28-10, 10:06 PM

I did some work on the AI Subs Script.
It's pretty simple once you play with it.
I can no longer test as the system I was useing is gone.

So I'll work on the Tools stuff for now.

THE_MASK · 06-28-10, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by privateer

I did some work on the AI Subs Script.
It's pretty simple once you play with it.
I can no longer test as the system I was useing is gone.

So I'll work on the Tools stuff for now.

If i had the money i would buy you a computer , but i dont . sorry .

06-28-10, 10:19 PM

No need to be sorry.
I have to cover my business and home expenses first.
As I make my living in Construction and business is down?
I adjust.
The wife buys new shoes, I duct tape mine.

The wife buys a new shirt, I duct tape mine.

Wanna buy a wife?
Cheap?

limkol · 06-29-10, 03:46 AM

3 rolls of duct tape and you can have mine

Zedi · 06-29-10, 04:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

I've started rewriting the scripts for the AI....hopefully I can fix the problems with them. It took me awhile to figure out the 'language' of the AI but now it's pretty easy. They (devs) gave a lot of power to the programmers for the AI. We should be able to make them do anything we want. Testing so far is quite positive

Best news since sh5 release. Everybody work on UI, less or almost nobody on the game core... the retard AI. Again, great news

Ontopic. I play with the stock game and I got chased by bombers a lot of time (never before the 1.2 patch). Also I got some minor damages from their guns, but never got sunk. Simply because I zig-zag on max speed, my crew is handling pretty good the AA guns and if I run out of ammo.. I dive.

GoldenRivet · 06-29-10, 11:02 AM

I'm patched to the latest version, well into the happy times campaign.

I have been overflown by perhaps 50 airplanes at various times... never once have i been attacked.

reaper7 · 06-29-10, 11:49 AM

Can't wait for your results TDW

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TheDarkWraith · 06-29-10, 10:39 PM

I was able to make aircraft attack you now instead of just fly by BUT there's a problem with it. There's no way to get the airplane to cease attacking you. Once you are detected you are always detected even if you submerge

There's no way to break the 'detected'. Therefore the airplane zips back and forth dive bombing your location and strafing the water with guns where you would be if you weren't submerged. It will continue to do this until it's either out of cannon ammo or runs out of fuel. Running out of fuel is what usually happens first

Now I see why the devs had it setup that they wouldn't attack you unless they either had bombs or torpedoes. If they didn't have either then they just flew by ignoring you. If they did have them then they attacked until they ran out of bombs/torpedoes then they proceeded to follow their waypoints again. This is a big problem that they need to fix ASAP

This just blows big time

loreed · 06-30-10, 12:26 AM

Most aircraft over fly me but I have been straffed a couple of times a mission.

GoldenRivet · 06-30-10, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

I was able to make aircraft attack you now instead of just fly by BUT there's a problem with it. There's no way to get the airplane to cease attacking you. Once you are detected you are always detected even if you submerge

There's no way to break the 'detected'. Therefore the airplane zips back and forth dive bombing your location and strafing the water with guns where you would be if you weren't submerged. It will continue to do this until it's either out of cannon ammo or runs out of fuel. Running out of fuel is what usually happens first

Now I see why the devs had it setup that they wouldn't attack you unless they either had bombs or torpedoes. If they didn't have either then they just flew by ignoring you. If they did have them then they attacked until they ran out of bombs/torpedoes then they proceeded to follow their waypoints again. This is a big problem that they need to fix ASAP

This just blows big time

wait a minute.

Historically, aircraft were probably the single biggest threat to the U-boats.

and they arent even properly modeled in the game????

its like playing aliens vs predator - only the aliens all ignore you

TheDarkWraith · 06-30-10, 08:05 AM

the airplane's AI is severely crippled in this game. They have limited commands that can be used. Now contrast this with the ships and AI subs - they have a huge command list and you can basically do anything you want with them. It's quite apparent that the airplane's weren't given hardly any attention but they are the most important (in my eyes) in the game.
It's so ridiculous that the airplane has to have either a bomb or torpedo on it in order for it to attack you with it and cannons. Once that bomb or torpedo has been fired it goes back to following waypoints even though it has cannon ammo left. The devs made it this way because it's too stupid to know that you submerged and it can't see you anymore (it still thinks it sees you even though you are 40+ meters down

). So airplanes that only have cannon ammo just fly right by you and don't even come to investigate or take a shot at you. Like I mentioned before I can make them come and investigate and shoot at you with those cannons but then it's a suicide mission for them - they will eventually run out of fuel and crash

The lucky ones will run out of cannon ammo and then return to following waypoints.

06-29-10, 11:02 AM	#8
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	I'm patched to the latest version, well into the happy times campaign. I have been overflown by perhaps 50 airplanes at various times... never once have i been attacked. __________________

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06-28-10, 09:06 PM	#1
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	I've started rewriting the scripts for the AI....hopefully I can fix the problems with them. It took me awhile to figure out the 'language' of the AI but now it's pretty easy. They (devs) gave a lot of power to the programmers for the AI. We should be able to make them do anything we want. Testing so far is quite positive

06-28-10, 10:06 PM	#3
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I did some work on the AI Subs Script. It's pretty simple once you play with it. I can no longer test as the system I was useing is gone. So I'll work on the Tools stuff for now.

06-28-10, 10:19 PM	#5
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	No need to be sorry. I have to cover my business and home expenses first. As I make my living in Construction and business is down? I adjust. The wife buys new shoes, I duct tape mine. The wife buys a new shirt, I duct tape mine. Wanna buy a wife? Cheap?

06-29-10, 03:46 AM	#6
limkol XO Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: looking in the bilge for a bottle opener Posts: 416 Downloads: 210 Uploads: 0	3 rolls of duct tape and you can have mine

06-29-10, 11:49 AM	#9
reaper7 sim2reality Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: AM 82 Posts: 2,280 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 30	Can't wait for your results TDW .

06-29-10, 10:39 PM	#10
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	I was able to make aircraft attack you now instead of just fly by BUT there's a problem with it. There's no way to get the airplane to cease attacking you. Once you are detected you are always detected even if you submerge There's no way to break the 'detected'. Therefore the airplane zips back and forth dive bombing your location and strafing the water with guns where you would be if you weren't submerged. It will continue to do this until it's either out of cannon ammo or runs out of fuel. Running out of fuel is what usually happens first Now I see why the devs had it setup that they wouldn't attack you unless they either had bombs or torpedoes. If they didn't have either then they just flew by ignoring you. If they did have them then they attacked until they ran out of bombs/torpedoes then they proceeded to follow their waypoints again. This is a big problem that they need to fix ASAP This just blows big time

06-30-10, 12:26 AM	#11
loreed Torpedoman Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Alaska Posts: 112 Downloads: 83 Uploads: 0	Most aircraft over fly me but I have been straffed a couple of times a mission.

06-30-10, 08:05 AM	#13
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	the airplane's AI is severely crippled in this game. They have limited commands that can be used. Now contrast this with the ships and AI subs - they have a huge command list and you can basically do anything you want with them. It's quite apparent that the airplane's weren't given hardly any attention but they are the most important (in my eyes) in the game. It's so ridiculous that the airplane has to have either a bomb or torpedo on it in order for it to attack you with it and cannons. Once that bomb or torpedo has been fired it goes back to following waypoints even though it has cannon ammo left. The devs made it this way because it's too stupid to know that you submerged and it can't see you anymore (it still thinks it sees you even though you are 40+ meters down ). So airplanes that only have cannon ammo just fly right by you and don't even come to investigate or take a shot at you. Like I mentioned before I can make them come and investigate and shoot at you with those cannons but then it's a suicide mission for them - they will eventually run out of fuel and crash The lucky ones will run out of cannon ammo and then return to following waypoints.